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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2013, 08:41:54 pm »
Thank you Dennis we all appreciate what you do!


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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2013, 12:10:05 am »
Thanks for the update.


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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2013, 08:59:29 am »
The INEX tech guy was down at the Concord Speedway open practice yesterday walking around looking at seals. He told us about the seal rule change but could not tell us what it would cost to have my engine inspected. All he could tell us was that it would not be free. I think it is BS that they put out such a mandate but can't tell anybody what the minimum cost will be assuming everything is legal with the engine. I really feel for you guys that have to ship your engine down here just to get inspected. I am lucky that I only live an hour away so I can run mine down there and maybe watch the head be pulled off in person. Maybe you guys will get lucky and the rule will not be enforced at the tracks you run at weekly. Unfortunately Concord is where a lot of the Summer Shootout cars run during the Spring/Fall and the 2nd closest track to USLC so we have a big time INEX presence.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2013, 09:06:24 am »
Dennis, what is driving this right side weight rule?  What was viewed as wrong with the rule being a percentage?

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2013, 09:10:58 am »
this is total bull sh*t... seal is a seal... we have a blue seal motor that we use' it runs good going to run it til it dies...shipping and recertification will be over $600.. why can not the tech people do this locally?  i never new there was a rear weight rule?

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2013, 09:37:26 am »
I am waiting on the clarification on the seals.

The weight rule is what it says, 640 lbs minimum with the driver, right side. NO MORE PERCENTAGES. There is no rear rule anymore. I have not sat and played with the numbers, I am told this is to try and remove the advantages the 100 pound driver has over the 200 lb driver.   Passing the info on!


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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2013, 10:12:35 am »
Last clarification on the weight rule!

There will NO longer be a minimum weight for a Legend Car. REMEMBER this will not take effect until Inex implements the rule.  My guess is they are waiting on feedback from the changes they have put out there!

Offline Legends16

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2013, 10:33:49 am »
   Dennis, I appreciate you help in gettings this info out there. I think its a bit obsurd that they are changing the rules so close to the racing season.  For us in the northeast, its a month away.

    Its times like this where Im glad to have an open motor but feel badly for my friends that dont. My friend has a blue seal on his motor. Is there an "old" blue seal as oposed to a new style? Just trying to understand the wording.

    Although the weight rule helps a 200+ driver like myself (I think),  the rule change should have been made last year IMO, if at all. To many have put the work into their cars already.

     Thanks,

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2013, 10:53:39 am »
Heres some math assuming you hold the 640 right side weight constant:

660/1300 = 50.77% LSW
670/1310 = 51.15% LSW
680/1320 = 51.52% LSW
690/1330 = 51.88% LSW
700/1340 = 52.24% LSW
710/1350 = 52.59% LSW


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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #24 on: March 04, 2013, 11:00:22 am »
Therein is the problem...
INEX has always been slow to release rule changes, or even have rules in place before the season starts (for most folks).
Memos, letters, rumors, etc... are usually kicked around on the Legends Car sites long before they (INEX) actually post their rulebook or rule changes.
I don't think it is fair to the majority of Legends racers.... But we (as a whole) don't make the rules.  :-\
As always, contact INEX. Let them know what you think.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2013, 11:40:09 am »
I agree that it is to close to season starting for rule changes, and I disagree with the 640 rule. I think it will make the car harder to drive for everyone and even the heavier will have to add weight to the right also.
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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2013, 12:13:27 pm »
Not firing on all cylinders here lately, but, NO minimum weight?

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2013, 12:24:52 pm »
Dennis,

Come on. You know the problem with the seals is not racers pushing the envelope.  If USLC would build engines that lasted 30-40 races like Curt, Larry, Ken and Hank do, no one would be going behind the seals. There were about 1000 racers last year in Legends. You know as fact, that certain engine builders have admitted to doing over 100 sealed engines last year. If Ken, Hank, Curt and Larry all did that many, that means 40% of engines are "illegally built"

The "fix" is not to check seals.  The real fix is to BUILD GOOD ENGINES. People spend $5000 on an engine, they expect they last more than 10 races. If USLC would build a good engine, all the illegal seals would go away.

And for GE to tell racers (as happened in FL)  that just bought a new engine, that blow by is "normal" and that they need to have a recirculating catch can, is ridiculous. I have a 1200 with 40+ races on it and no blow by. NO WAY should a NEW engine blow so much oil you need to recirculate it to the fill cap.

Not mad at you Dennis, but please stop making this issue about the racers. It is about USLC and USLC only.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2013, 12:28:32 pm »
No minimum weight is correct. the way I see it, the lighter guys under about 150lbs will be running a lower left side percentage than they are now. If the total weight is 1340 or better you will be at 52% left and 643 right side weight.  I am not sure i like the no minimum rule, as a 100lb driver have a super light car and lead the hell out of the bottom, even though he will have to lead the right side to achieve 640. He is still bottom heavy. the rule will help drivers over about 165 lbs I would say.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2013, 12:45:10 pm »
Maybe I'm missing something but what is all the talk about seals? I went back and don't see anything about seals. Can someone please tell me what the new rule is? Thanks
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