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Offline slack11

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front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« on: November 04, 2013, 04:50:53 pm »
Gonna get the frame done here soon, haven't heard a lot of feedback regarding the front clip stiffeners...
do many run them?

What are your thoughts on them?

 Should I put them on over the winter?




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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 06:43:07 pm »
Don't know about asphalt, but the dirt guys that I have talked to cut them off their new frames
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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 07:46:14 pm »
I did not have them put on because my chassis guy said that the stiffeners would put too much force on the main frame in a crash..others that I talk too say they help in the corners.. may weld a set in this year..
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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2013, 05:30:17 am »
I talked to a guy that had them on asphalt and he said it didn't change the set-up or handling at all. Kind of hard to believe but that is what he told me. I have not tried them myself.
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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2013, 12:03:52 pm »
I'm in the same situation--wondering what impact others have seen on asphalt with those stiffeners.

Perhaps Brad or Dennis can chime in on this one as they have exposuere to multiple cars/customers on asphalt?

MT

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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2013, 03:42:04 pm »
We saw no change in lap times or the handling of the car. We honestly have not whacked one hard enough with stiffeners to give input on any issues involving damage. I personally am not concerned with them causing any additional damage to the car, the material and angle that are installed wont do a lot to help or hurt you in a crash. I am a big fan of the  new style motor mount bushings ( rubber or whatever they are made from).


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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2013, 04:27:44 pm »
I can't say that I noticed any handling differences in either on my cars.

I can say that I  T-boned a car hard enough to flatten the round vertical bars on the front bumper (where the tabs weld to) flat against the front horns, the front bumper  into a V shape, the grill bent over the front of the motor, and the steering rack plate from 90 deg angle to 60 deg. The front horns where not bent vertically at all and where only 1/2"to the left. Instead of a full front clip ($300), I only had to straighten a little and replace the steering rack plate w/ crossbar ($12).

My other car I flipped a month later, I landed on th LF horn (bent the bumper 90 deg along side the horn) and it only needs some straightening (less than 3/4" bent in).

I have seen  2 other frames from this year that the horns were bent at at least 45 deg angles in front of the shock towers, but no bends or waves behind the shock towers. Those frames still need clipped, but protected the  motor mount areas on both sides.

From what I have seen, I will not hesitate to put them on again.
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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2013, 07:12:42 pm »
Dennis, I know this is getting off topic a little but I thought that the new motor mount were melting? Did they make some new ones?

When I had to put on a new clip earlier this year I elected not to put on the new bars because I had not heard enough to make me do it yet. Maybe I should have tried it.
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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2013, 08:07:31 pm »
we use the blue ones no issues in 15 races...
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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2013, 09:13:07 pm »
If you have blue ones remove them over the winter!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They  WILL melt. Send them back and you will get the new black free of charge.


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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2013, 09:57:45 pm »
I never noticed a difference between the bars, and as far as impact I can't really comment, My chassis would still have been destroyed from nationals even without them on.

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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2013, 04:51:23 pm »
I've melted two of the blue motor mounts.  Thanks for the tip, Dennis.  I'll get black ones this year.

MT
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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2013, 10:36:41 am »
looks like I will be replacing mine too before trouble starts....
thanks guys
joe

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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2013, 09:46:46 pm »
Hello I just bought a new coupe frame from our local dealer frame date 2013 and I am trying to figure out what the new change is to the front clip. If you would please help me understand what has been done, we are new to legends and this is our first "new" car. Thanks

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Re: front clip stiffeners good or bad?
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2013, 10:09:11 pm »
Look at the current rulebook, appendices.
It is a brace to help stiffen the front clip.
Mixed reactions so far from comments made in older threads. Do a search and see the comments.

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