How You Doing? 2009

[JGRacing]

Is there a difference in the rule between a "claimed motor" and a "protested motor"?  Don't have time to pull out the rule book now, but I do not think that it should take two weeks without an engine plus shipping expense for a "protested" motor. 

[JGRacing]

Here is what I found on page 65 regarding a protested motor.  I'll keep my opinion to myself about the rule, but looks like it could be used as a pretty good weapon for someone wanting to cause problems for another racer.   

CHECKING THE PROTEST: The protested component will
be removed from the car or made available for inspection by the
protested team’s crew and inspected by the INEX tech inspector.
The following people will be permitted to be present at the protest
site: protested driver and crew (the crew shall leave once the part is
removed), protester, INEX tech officials and a speedway management
representative. If a decision at the track cannot be made, then the
component will be sent to INEX for a final decision on legality. On
a protest, it is the driver’s duty to prove his legality, not the tech
officials or protester’s duty to prove the violation.

WHEN THE PROTEST FINDS A LEGAL COMPONENT:
After inspection, if the protested component is found legal, the
protest money will be given to the driver of the car from which
the component was protested (less reasonable inspection fees
and shipping charges determined by INEX). The shipping
costs of an engine to an engine rebuilder is not covered.

[JGRacing]

Here are the protest fees.  What item were they protesting on your motor?

Protest Fee Schedule for Legends Cars:
$100.00 - Compression Ratio (Choice of any 2 cylinders)
$100.00 - Bore Size (Check all four cylinders with bore gauge)
Choice of one (1) of the following items to be protested:
• A driver may only be protested by one other competitor at each event.
(If more than one protest is filed against a competitor, the driver with the
higher finishing position in that race will be allowed the protest.
• No driver may file a protest more than 3 times during the calender year.
• Protestor must verify that the tech inspector has the special equipment
necessary for the test, if applicable.
-66-
$100.00 - Stroke
$800.00 - Crank Shaft (lightened / out of engine)
$400.00 - Rods (stock, polished, lightened / out of engine)
$300.00 - Ported & Polished Head (check intake & exhaust)
$50.00 - Air Filters (Velocity Stacks and size of filter)
$100.00 - Cam Shaft Lobes (check intake & exhaust lobes)
$75.00 - Alternator (working & wired properly)
$200.00 - Fuel (Laboratory Test)
$100.00 - Exhaust System (check header and/or muffler)
$100.00 - Total Weight (between min. & max. weight)
$150.00 - Rear End Gears (Locked)
$100.00 - Shocks (each shock)
$100.00 - Spindle (Left & Right)
$100.00 - Driveshaft (stock)
$100.00 - Wheel Offset (Check all four wheels)
$100.00 - Wheel Weight with Tire (Check all four wheels)
$100.00 - Front Bumper or Rear Bumper meets all specs.
$200.00 - Carburetors
$50.00 - Durometer test of tires
$200.00 - Engine Seals
*TBD - Reasonable fee to be determined by the INEX

[apm motorsports]

page 106 sealed engine inspection card.  I thought all the  tech had to do was check the seals see if they were tamperd with but the 3 paragraph says engine must be removed.  and the 08 madonna winner who protested me choose to have it sent  to inex. If you have money you can mess with any driver who is better than you. No one from inex  tech ever got back to me about charging the protester extra to cover my lost.  ps  the following week was a 1500 to win race at grundy, we could not race no motor. guess who won.         pissed off dad

[apm motorsports]

 I use joe gibbs xp3  90  dollars  could not reuse dirty catch can.  it was not a engine claim card. but a 500 sealed engine inspection card. 

[VMS Motorsports]

The money always wins, no matter what the propaganda says, and I'll leave it at that.

On a side note...You should find a new supplier for your oil...full retail is $15/qt...hope you didnt have 6 quarts in there!
No, i don't sell it, so i'm not trying to drum up business!

[apm motorsports]

the shipping cost was 8 bucks from pit stop.  use to use gtx 20 -50  tried  the xp3 and gained 2-10ths with just the oil change. seems to run cooler too.  seems the cheapest price was  from pit stop.  we been trying different fuels also from vp  becoming too expensive to stay in front .  not worth the expense for a 75 dollar win purse.  but now that he is winning every race have to stay ahead of the pack. hope that someone will offer him a ride in a late model.  if not at least we know what we can do with  a legend car on paved track. maybe next year we will try dirt and start all over.

[justfreaky]

Would this apply?

IF THE COMPONENT IS FOUND LEGAL: The
protest fee will be given to the car owner who owns the
protested component (less applicable inspection fees &
shipping charges). If the component is found legal and
the checking of that protested component requires an
engine re-assembly, the protester will be responsible for
the cost of re-assembling that engine.

Page 106

I guess this pretty much covers it  :

If the engine is found legal, the engine will be
re-assembled and re-sealed, then returned to the
owner. The inspection fee will be used for shipping
and inspection costs.

Page 107

Am wondering if you could counter- protest whether it was really necessary to send it to 600 Racing?
Can you recover costs for re-installation, oil, etc...

Steve

[apm motorsports]

no steve i tried no one got back to me .  I guess it is all part of racing . got back my motor on thur  have to  wait till next week see how we run.   thanks   Gil

[elimn8u_43]

Had a great run today! We were rained out Friday night and postponed till today. The track was a bit slick but was able to manage a second place finish in my heat. Started 7th in the feature and after a hard fought battle I claimed the lead by lap ten. The car developed a bad push with ten to go. The caution came out with three to go and I lost the lead on the restart because of the push. Finished second with my car in one piece. Definately looking forward to next week.

Geoff

[justfreaky]

Very Good Run Geoff!  Congratulations!!!

Steve

[justfreaky]

I am just about finished moving. Only my computer and desk left. I will likely do that today or tommorow. Will be off line for awhile until I find a new internet provider.
Hope to be back in a couple of weeks. I'll try to check in on the site as often as I can.
Take Care and Be Safe!

Steve

[elimn8u_43]

Not so good night for me. Finished 9th in my heat race on a well oiled track. Started 10th in the feature and was wrecked by someone who ran out of talent. Parked his car on my hood. I was able to finish the race in 8th coming from the back of a 20 car field with a bad vibration (bent wheel).

Geoff

[VMS Motorsports]

Sounds like a nice comeback Geoff. Hope the damage is minimal...or at least duct-tape-able!

[JGRacing]

My Saturday went something like this.  BOOM!!! ... then lots of black smoke.  I have a rod sticking through the side of the block, so my season is most likely over with.  On the up side, it did not catch fire.