Author Topic: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....  (Read 14949 times)

Offline slack11

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Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« on: July 06, 2011, 11:11:43 pm »
 last week the car was loose entering the corner, and I was going to stiffen the RF spring.  I have also been toying with the idea of softening the whole car, so my question is...
If I need to tighten the car on entry by stiffening the RF spring, would softening the rest of the car have the same affect?  I know the answer is most likely try it and see, but was wondering if others have done this.




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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2011, 11:40:56 pm »
Try it and see  ;D

It really depends on your set-up and weight distribution numbers as to what you should do. Also how you drive.
Me personally, hate a loose car. I'm running 51.5% cross and it's too loose for my driving taste.
If you want to PM or email me your numbers, I can help you work something out with some different options you can try
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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2011, 11:39:06 am »
Hi Nate,

As I recall, you race pavement. Is your issue just loose condition on turn entry?
Perhaps too much rear brake bias if the condition occurs only on turn entry braking. Could be a stagger issue also (too much stagger).
You might go back through any notes and set ups that Dave gave you and see if you are off somewhere.

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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2011, 08:23:25 am »
To answer your question,  stiffening the right front will help a your issue, i would not run more than a 50lb split in those front springs on asphalt. If you exceed 50lbs. it creates an issue under breaking that will upset the car to much on entry.
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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2011, 08:26:05 am »
I take it that 51% cross is on the dirt, lol.  If these asphalt guys would run 51% i could sell alot of right front fenders and suspension parts, LOL. I would like to run dirt sometime on a practice day, it looks fun.


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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2011, 09:04:04 am »
I take it that 51% cross is on the dirt, lol.  If these asphalt guys would run 51% i could sell alot of right front fenders and suspension parts, LOL. I would like to run dirt sometime on a practice day, it looks fun.

Actually, after the top 5 last week, I scaled the car and I'm at 54.9% cross with me in it.
Yikes...don't tell Gimpster!
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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2011, 02:08:51 pm »
 Loose is fast tight is bite...

M-e-r-r-y go round and around.
Merry go round and a- r-o-u-n-d
Merry go round and round and round
M-e-r-r-y go round and around and a-r-o-u-n-d...
Merry go round and around
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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2011, 03:09:26 pm »
Forward bite is the thing I was lacking last week.
Adding 54lbs of lead in the ass end tonight.
I am soooo not textbook  ::)
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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2011, 05:27:20 pm »
 I told Wanda that we are going to paint the Legend aluminumn silver. Get rid of the pink so it goes into the corner better.
The aluminum should make it accellerate faster down the straights too... (sigh)

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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2011, 07:44:12 pm »
LMAO! OK... Will give you aluminum is slick. But I will attribute faster to pink because it is for a very good cause.  ;)
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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2011, 08:15:01 pm »
 Haha, honestly  I told Wanda we should paint it because I never had cancer before I got a pink Legends car. Reverse phsycologoy thinking !
LOL, heck with the set-up manual...

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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2011, 08:27:01 pm »
Set up manual? What's that? Did it come with your car?
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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2011, 08:35:57 pm »
 Yup... ya want a copy ?

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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2011, 08:45:19 pm »
Nope.... Can't read anyway. Like the pictures though!
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Re: Stiffen RF spring vs. Softening rest of car....
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2011, 09:11:24 pm »
I've done everything by the book for too long.
Guess I just can't drive as good as everyone else.
The more bent up my chassis gets, and the more "incorrect" things I do, the better it gets.
Laugh all you want boys  ;)
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