Tire test at ELS for new dirt tires

[JGRacing]

With the tires being taller, everyone make sure to keep an eye on your right rear fender clearance.  Would hate to see people messing up their new tires the first time out. 

[JGRacing]

Wouldn't we want the small side facing the outside of the track so that when the tire rolls over we have a better contact patch (like the asphalt cut tires)?   

[VMS Motorsports]

Good point on the fender clearance.
I have no knowledge of how they cut asphalt tires having never tried it...
Just relaying messages

[Legends57x]

I agree with JG racing as our asphalt tires on right side are run with the larger diameter run towards the inside of car.  Makes no sense to me unless camber cutting for asphalt is different than dirt?

[rickmiller48]

I couldn't find anything on AR's but they used to be the same as Hoosiers as far as mounting them with the ser# toward the infield of the track (aka left side of the car).  http://www.hoosiertire.com/mounting.HTM   

I always ran Hoosiers but I had friends that switched back and forth (or even mix matched, which I didn't agree with) and they always mounted both brands the same.

[igotmylegend]

Any body check the weights of these tires and wheels?

[VMS Motorsports]

Depends on the wheels you have.
I know people have said the tires are alot lighter than the BFG's though

[igotmylegend]

I know Jim, I guess i shouldn't have put it down as a question. They don't fit into the rules.

[JC38]

I heard that there going to make changes in the rule book for the dirt cars. and the fenders are one, there going to let you mount them higher. and also the front end because these tires are 8" wide and not a 7, because right now my car wouldnt fit through the front end gage with these tires on it! 

[VMS Motorsports]

I know Jim, I guess i shouldn't have put it down as a question. They don't fit into the rules.

Yeah, the wheel/tire combo minimum weight rule would make everyone illegal

[VMS Motorsports]

I heard that there going to make changes in the rule book for the dirt cars. and the fenders are one, there going to let you mount them higher. and also the front end because these tires are 8" wide and not a 7, because right now my car wouldnt fit through the front end gage with these tires on it! 

Sucks for the guys with the 34 coupes. They have the bodyline in the rear that the fenders go up against...not sure how to raise them.
How are we going to raise the front fenders? Would have to raise the grill up off the frame horns...
Anyone have a set on their car yet? Wonder about front suspension and header clearances too...

[JGRacing]

Would allowing the right rear fender lip to be cut more help on the 34 bodies?  Hope we do not have to get into different offset wheels for the dirt tires.  I would imagine that they ran into some of this stuff during testing, unless the final product is a different size than what they used.   

[JC38]

i mounted mine but didnt  air them up yet, its been kinda cold and they wouldnt bead up right
, so im going to air them up saturday when its goung to be 80 here....

[Legends57x]

I'm sorry, but I am very disappointed with this new tire so far.


First, cost is much more than most anticipated at $110 each
Second, you will probably have to buy a beadlock at $134 for RR if you don't already have one.
Third, it took forever to get thes new tires to dealers.
Fourth, discrepencies with mounting.  Directional arrows mean nothing??? Larger diameter toward right side???
Fifth, these new tires do not clear fenders properly???  Now possible rule amemdment to mount fenders higher.  Why not just take the fenders off and call them outlaw Legends?
Sixth, tires are much lighter.  Now possilbe rule amendment for weight for combo of AR tires and wheels.
Seventh, tires are wider and cars do not fit thru 60" width gauge.  Geez, anyone with BFG's will be at a  real disadvantage  due to wider track width and more bite as compared to the AR tires.
Eight, possilbe wheel offset changes to accomodate above mentioned width change.
Nine, possible interference with exhaust header and other steering components.
And finally Ten, this whole deal is really starting to sound like a can of worms. 

I have never personally met the Gimpster, but now I know why he feels the way he does and is hanging it up.  Jim's solution of using some sort of street tire comparable to the BFG's sure makes  a whole lot of sense.  I vote Jim for president!    OK, I've said enough on this topic for now. 

Have a great weekend to all! Mark

[igotmylegend]

I have a rule book but what is the rule on the rear fender? I dont see whats the big deal on moving the fender up.