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Title: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 02, 2009, 10:39:50 pm
I had my supplier tell me he wll have the inex bead loc covers monday ? can wait to see what they look like ?
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 04, 2009, 04:33:32 pm
Also found out this past week I thought I had a bent axle ? well I put the new one in today ,and statred up the car when it was in the air and still the right rear Is wabbleing ? come to find out my NEW BEADLOCK is bent ?or worpped ? I ran a few laps a few weeks ago and never hit anything or no marks on the rims ? everyone make sure you check you new beadlocks before you use them.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: CJ5 on April 04, 2009, 05:46:21 pm
Check the inside bead on the wheel (while you spin it) if it wobbles the wheel is bent if the inside is straight the thing may have been built wrong.

Good luck
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 04, 2009, 10:25:03 pm
will do thanks ,just wanted to put it out there so everyone check your new beadlocks
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: jgrimracing on April 07, 2009, 05:38:05 pm
Vern,
Did you get the chance to check out the wheel yet?  I don't know if we checked ours out or not, I will look tonight.  I do remember from the bead locks on the micros, if you don't get the lock tightened even you get the wobble on the outside.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: JGRacing on April 07, 2009, 07:12:37 pm
Also, for people new to beadlocks, they will probably leak air so it helps to caulk the underside of the tire bead before you put the ring on.  This tire bead sealer stuff that I am using now would probably work really well also.  I have never had a major leak, but having a tire that was not sealed go flat overnight was pretty normal.     
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Racinjj on April 07, 2009, 10:10:12 pm
I got my beadlock wheel today along with the Inex wheel cover.  The wheel cover is clear Lexan so nobody will have issues at tracks that dont allow metal covers.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 07, 2009, 10:47:36 pm
yes Jeremy I measured the wheel after I took it off the tire and it was off it looks like it didnt get centered before they welded it ? I even put bare rim on car and started up the inside and out side wabbled at the same time , I called paul and he is going to exchange it for me and deal with 600 about it, man what a great guy.  vern #20
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: jgrimracing on April 08, 2009, 03:25:49 pm
That's great Paul will take care of it for you.  I have heard of that before but never had a wheel that way.  Glad you got it all figured out!
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 08, 2009, 10:36:51 pm
Jeremy when are you guys comming out again ? you mist a good one last sunday....... wow path was really slick....
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: rickmiller48 on April 11, 2009, 07:39:42 am
It was slick enough that Vern gave me my first doughnut (at least a little starter one) of the season as I helped straighten him out with my right side running board and door coming out of 2.  I had a ball, slick tracks kind of suck, but I had a ball anyway. 
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 11, 2009, 10:19:37 am
sorry about that ???? what that happen in the feature race ?
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 11, 2009, 10:23:36 am
Rich you looked like you had your hands full going home ? your trailer was all over the place , I tryed to wait before I past you, didnt want to cuase any problems ? looked like you need more toung weight ?
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: VMS Motorsports on April 11, 2009, 10:30:14 am
No apologies allowed Vern....doughnuts are good, edible or not! Ya can't be a winner without some battle scars!
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: rickmiller48 on April 12, 2009, 07:34:56 am
Vern,
     No problem at all with the hit in the feature.  I put it under you down the front straight and when we went into 1 you pulled half a length on all of us, so I was pretty sure something was going to happen.  I definitely don't hold grudges about stuff like that, hell, I switched from full bodied stock cars just last year, so a little bumping is just racing.  Now if you would have just come down and nailed me on purpose, I might not be as forgiving.   With the trailer, I don't know if you notice but I run a ton (probably literally) of tongue weight.  Everything heavy is in the nose except the generator, and the car is pretty far forward.  I've played with it both ways in the past and if I go further forward, the front of the truck is too light off the highway, and further back it does what you saw all the time.  As it is, it only did it 3 or 4 times coming across the Turnpike.  Now that I think about it though, I don't think I moved the car forward after I started carrying the generator, so maybe that will be the ticket.  Also, I'm thinking of adding one of those friction type sway controls that are like a shock absorber hooked to the side of the tongue and right next to the ball on the hitch. 

Rick
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 12, 2009, 08:32:28 am
good deal hey rick sounds like you do need weight/sway bar control I had a simular prob,I might have a set Ill dig up and let you try it before you go out and buy the wroung thing ?let me see if I can find it ill let you know is your truck a 1/2 ton ?if so thats what you need.or did you say it was a 1 ton ? the truck wont let you put enough toung wait.with these sway bars it allows you to load the toung and keep the backm of the truck up.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: rickmiller48 on April 12, 2009, 12:49:09 pm
The truck is a half ton.  I was told by a couple people that if I put weight distribution on my truck, I would end up down in the woods across the road or at least never make it back up my driveway because the rear wheels of my truck would get too light at the bottom of the ski jump/driveway; that's why I was thinking about the friction type sway control.  If you have some other ideas, I'm all ears.  I might just try moving the car another foot forward and see how that goes.  I'll try it this weekend but I probably won't know if it works until Susky since I live 4 miles from lincoln and it only does the sway thing at around 60 or better.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: justfreaky on April 12, 2009, 08:07:49 pm
I hope this is leading to getting back on topic.
Please use private messaging or start a topic on towing. (hint,hint)

Steve
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: jgrimracing on April 13, 2009, 04:35:13 pm
Steve, I figured sooner or later you would catch it.  I answered Vern's question to me in a private message.  It is so hard to stay on track sometimes!! 
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: justfreaky on April 13, 2009, 04:55:33 pm
The private messaging is in place for people to BS with one another. I have mentioned this several times to different people. Not that I think it is wrong to BS, joke, or just be silly sometimes.... It screws up things for members, and guests, who are searching for certain information.

Lets PLEASE all try to stay on topic.

Thanks,

Steve
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Racinjj on April 20, 2009, 09:18:11 pm
Just found out from our tech director yesterday that we cant run the lexan cover that Inex sells so I have to go and get a foam plug as that will be our only option.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 20, 2009, 09:49:39 pm
You know that really sucks ????? I just bought two lexan covers from my dealer that have the inex sticker on it ? at 15.00 a peice ?so now 600 says we cant use them, boy what are they doing ???? or do they even know ?????
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: justfreaky on April 20, 2009, 10:08:33 pm
I don't think it is INEX that is changing the rules. I think the type of plug used is an individual track thing.

Steve
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Vern Houseman on April 21, 2009, 05:49:06 am
ok  I see ,boy I jumped the gun on that one ........
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: VMS Motorsports on April 21, 2009, 08:14:12 am
Jeff,

Please refer to my quote from March 27th...


"Here is the rule from our "home" track for the other divisions:

"Foam type or soft plastic mud plug allowed on right side tires
only." "

You should have expected it would apply to us too, although I suppose an argument could be made by some that Lexan is "soft", it's not.

-The great and powerful Oz  ;D
 (aka mid-pack Jim who reads the rulebook)
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Racinjj on April 21, 2009, 05:01:01 pm
Yeah, realize that but you just wait we will go somewhere and they will make you run that lexan cover.  Either way its nice to have on handto use at Chilton and when I travel.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: VMS Motorsports on April 21, 2009, 06:11:43 pm
I prefer the foam ones, but will have both on hand anyway also. Remember, back in the day, the foam mudplug was invented as an insulator, to keep heat in the tire, not just as a mud plug...
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: JGRacing on April 21, 2009, 06:18:32 pm
Does someone sell foam plugs for the 13 inch wheels, or do you just cut down a 15 inch one? 
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: VMS Motorsports on April 21, 2009, 06:59:28 pm
I havent found a 13" one yet, was just planning on using the 15". Let us know if you find one! I have calls in to a couple manufacturers for pricing and options to get some made
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Racinjj on April 21, 2009, 08:43:43 pm
I cut a 15" foam down, looks like it will work, but I dont know since I have never used one before.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: FFmedic on May 18, 2009, 07:24:11 pm
I GOT MY Beadlock today!!!  Am I the only one that didn't get the dzsus (spelling??) closers for the cover???  Don't tell me they are extra. You think it would come withaeverything.


Joe
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Racinjj on May 18, 2009, 08:29:30 pm
Yes they are extra.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: FFmedic on May 18, 2009, 08:45:39 pm
Hmm I guess that shouldn't suprise me.  Thanks!!

Joe
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: VMS Motorsports on May 18, 2009, 08:47:18 pm
Make sure you can use the Lexan cover at your track...
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: justfreaky on May 19, 2009, 11:58:22 am
Don't the foam plugs still use a ring that fasten on with the dzus fasteners?

 :-[  Sorry! I have never used them... As I am a pavement guy.  :-[

Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: Racinjj on May 19, 2009, 12:24:40 pm
Nope, you just stick it inside the wheel, much faster and easier to get in and out for air pressure and tire changing.  I dont plan to use my lexan cover unless INEX makes me since the foam plug works so well.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: CJ5 on May 19, 2009, 01:09:19 pm
The foam plug also helps build and retain heat in the tire. On a hard tire it's pretty helpful
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: FFmedic on May 21, 2009, 03:37:09 pm
Hmmm I'm thinking i'm ok at my local tracks as the modifieds run lexan covers.  But the foam thing...... that is a good idea for keeping heat in the tire.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: BATZ on May 28, 2009, 10:14:41 pm
I painted my cover from the inside...looks kinda cool.  I'm gonna use my gas pedal to keep the heat in my tires!  HA!   ;)
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: VMS Motorsports on May 29, 2009, 09:14:14 am
Yeah, thats the ticket!  :-X
Its surprising how much the foam retains heat. After the heat race last week, I parked the car and went for a stroll, watched some other races, got something to eat, then went back about an hour and a half later to check tire pressures for the main, and the foam mudplug was still warm. Not a sales pitch, you could always buy a 15" at the track I'm sure and cut it down to size, just an observation. Take it or leave it.
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: FFmedic on May 29, 2009, 02:41:16 pm
Batz good to see ya on here.  Lets just try not to stick you bumper into my plastic cover.. LOL!!!!   See ya on the track.

Joe
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: FFmedic on May 30, 2009, 12:15:23 pm
Well.. ran the bead lock last night for the first time.  Found out 2 things.. 1. If it is taky you can get away with less then 12 pounds in the right rear... and man did that thing hook up.  2. If it is dry slick and rough... you need to put more air in the thing, the car did not handle until I found the bottom where there was a bit of moisture.

I still like the beadlock though, its good insurance  for not having a DNF.   

Joe
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: IraceLegends77 on June 01, 2009, 07:54:43 am
I bought my beadlock this weekend and can't wait to get it mounted. I heard guys running 7 1/2 in the right rear. I need to make a cover or get some foam though.\

Scott
Title: Re: Beadlocks
Post by: JGRacing on June 01, 2009, 10:59:05 am
I ran mine for the first time this weekend and I guess it worked.  My tire didn't fall off.   :)  I only went down to 11 lbs in the right rear, but it was nice not to have to worry about the tire coming off of the bead.