LegendsRacer - Legends & Bandolero Racing Forum
BANDOLEROS => General => Topic started by: elimn8u_43 on October 03, 2007, 07:46:32 pm
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I will be picking up my Bandolero this Saturday morning. Can't wait, another toy to learn ;D.
Geoff
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WooHoo!!!
Can't wait to see it! Post Pics.
You'll have your hand full this winter,
Best of Luck!
Steve
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I will post pics as I can. This will be a Christmas present for my 2 boys to fight over.
Geoff
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I picked up my Bandolero this morning. It is as good as I expected. A few minor updates and some setup work and we will be ready to go.
Geoff
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Awesome! We're going to see some more Bevans Boys in the drivers seat!
Congrats on finally getting the car!
Later,
Steve
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Y'all better pray for me... I might'a finally lost it now. Looks like we're gonna drag the old Bando out of the basement and dust it off for my daughter. Phillip and I tried to get her to try it out several years ago, but when she found out it might eventually come down to a decision - racecar vs pony - it became a dead issue! Mom recently started the campaign again (she loathes the pony) and Little Sis bit.
So... now, just when I was getting close to one flying out of the nest / garage; I may be starting over with the thrown chains, smoked brakes & clutches, bent spindles and the rest. Oh yeah, and this time instead of a football player - I get a skinny little blonde to work with who won't hesitate to cry if she thinks it'll help her case!
JB
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Hey JB, any pointers for a newbie to the Bando world? Any help would be appreciated!
Thanx
Geoff
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Geoff,
Have the boys start practicing their crying. If it works for Sis, maybe it could work on the officals.
Never worked for me; but then an old guy whinning just don't go over well at most tracks.
;D ;D ;D
Steve
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From 600 racing:
http://www.600racing.com/600_racing_info/tech_tips/518644.html
http://www.600racing.com/inex_info/tech_updates/512530.html
http://www.600racing.com/inex_info/gear_charts/516994.html
I'm still searching
Steve
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Thanks Steve,
I needed the checklist, I have never seen it before. So far there is nobody crying here. I kinda laid down the law stating that there would be no fighting or crying over the car except for me ;D. If there was any that the car would be sold. This little threat keeps a lot of peace in the family, not like the car is going anywheres.
Geoff
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Wish I had more for you. Just can't find a lot of info.
Hopefully, those that have "been there ,done that" will help out.
Steve
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Pics of elimn8u_43 Bando
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Heavens! It's been 5 years, so I have to re-learn all the tweaks and techniques again.
The first rule and the only one that really matters in my book it:
This is for fun! No fighting. No whining. I watched Larry MacRenolds load his kid's Bando up once in Charlotte after a heat. Brandon parked it at the trailer, jumped out and screamed that it was a piece of junk. Larry told him to "Load my piece of junk racecar in my trailer and get your butt in my truck. We're going home!" I've been a fan of Larry Mac ever since.
If any of you Albany GA guys were around SCS back a few years, this used to be the red 99 that won a bunch of races and a couple of track championships. I don't remember the kids name that had it back then. We'll finish cleaning it up tonight and start putting it back together. Gonna have to replace the old body - it looked too rough. Maybe I'll talk Amber into bringing it back as the red 99 in honor - but it'll have to have flames!
Jon
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Thanks Steve!!!
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Hey Geoff,
Look forward to hearing how your test session went today at the track.
I hope all went well.
Steve
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The test went well. We only had a chance to get my older boy Brad in the car for two 10 lap sessions. He has never driven before. He was getting faster by the lap when the front sprocket stripped the teeth off. He did a great job and I think that I will be able to get him up to speed quickly. We will be doing winter testing on the XBOX playing nascar. This should help with driving lines and car feel (tight or loose).
Geoff
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Seat time is what it is all about!
I am concerned about stripping the teeth off the front spocket. Maybe Kyle, Jon or Tom can give you some insight on that. My immediate thought is that the chain and spockets don't match. #35, #41, #520, etc... chain doesn't match sprockets. Just a wild guess. ???
I'm also not up to speed on the clutch system that the Bando Cars use. Could it be that the clutch is engaging too harshly? Maybe changing the springs to soften it up would help.
Wish I had better info for you. Hopefully someone with more knowledge can help you out.
Steve
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I think that the stripped sprocket was caused by an improperly adjusted chain. It wasn't the one that I require for our track anyways. Just gives me a reason to buy a new clutch assembly and have some spare parts ;D.
Geoff
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Hey Geoff,
Any updates or insights on the car? New testing sessions?
Steve
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I have removed the seat to better position it for my boy. No more testing until spring, getting way to cold up here. Been trying to get an engine together for my car so I can concentrate more on the Bando.
Geoff
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:)
Bandolero Racers: Looking at getting my 10 yr. old and 8 yr. old into Bando racing. They are huge fans and we go to the Summer Shootout at Lowes every Tuesday during the summer.
We are completely new to this racing thing so I'm looking for some information about what to look for in Bando cars, how many parts needed to start, trailer options, helmet options, racing suit options, etc.
My 10 yr. old did the test drive a few weeks ago and he got hooked. So now we are in phase 2. Driving school. Then we'll see where we go from there.
I'm a newbie to this racing thing though I'm a huge racing fan and looking forward to a challenge.
Please fill me in on what to look for in a used car, trailer, racing setups (secret from what I've seen so far) and what we may be getting ourselves into as a family for this upcoming summer season.
Thanks. Looking forward to seeing what ya'll say.
John Kirwan
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Hi and Welcome John!!!
Try this thread; should give you some insite:
http://www.legendsracer.com/index.php/topic,72.0.html
Hope that helps some.
Not just set up info; but darn near any info on Bandos seems to be the worlds best kept secret.
Talk with the driving instructor; and any crew or driver at the track.
Best advice I have for now.
Best Of Luck!
Steve
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All that I have been able to find out so far. Cross weight in the low 40% area (from my tech guy at our track), do not use the brakes in the corner (Mike Smith, AKA Ole'Dawg), and keep lots of spindles and bumpers on hand (local racers). Anything else I can find out I will keep you posted.
Welcome to the racing community!!!
Geoff
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Hello John,
I'm new to this as well, I am hoping to have my Son (9) try his 1st practice this Friday at Lowes and then maybe the race on SAT/SUN. I have bought 2 cars, 1 needs some work the other appears to be good to go, so we are going to try it out. Most people on the forums are very helpful and pretty much the same at the tracks I've learned. You'll probably be best off to hire an individual to set up your car and try to learn from there...at least thats my plan. So we'll see!
Good Luck!
Ray
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Crew Chief's Job
Step one...figure out how to measure everything consistently. Caster, Camber, Toe, Wheel Stagger (circumference difference from L to R), ride height at each corner, LS %, Rear%, and Cross%, tire pressure, tire durometer
Step two...figure out how to adjust all of the above
Step three...get the car set up by a pro, and record every aspect of that BASELINE setup
Step four...learn when and why to make any of the adjustments in step one from your baseline
Step five...learn how to get all this right before the feature each night!
Driver's Job
Practice...seat time builds confidence in the car and will teach you to recognize what the car is doing.
Communication...It is your job to accurately account for every little thing the car is doing and where it is doing it. You must be able to tell how the car changes throughout a practice run. The more you explain to your crewchief, the faster he can make you go.
Concentration...you are there to worry about yourself, and your car's speed on the track. Those who can maintain that focus best usually end up doing better sooner. DO NOT concern yourself with other's accomplishments at the track. People with years of experience should be better than you and comparing yourself to them only serves to intimidate you, and trust me when I say that they do intentionally try to intimidate you. Keep them out of your head! There's as much to racing off the track as there is on the track.
A quote from Mario Andretti...if it feels like you have everything under control, you aren't going fast enough.
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People with years of experience should be better than you and comparing yourself to them only serves to intimidate you, and trust me when I say that they do intentionally try to intimidate you. Keep them out of your head! There's as much to racing off the track as there is on the track.
A quote from Mario Andretti...if it feels like you have everything under control, you aren't going fast enough.
True, but unfortunate. It's the fear of the other racer getting in your head that prevents racers from getting to know their fellow racer better.
The one thing I respected most about the legends class in our area is their willingness to help each other off the track and on. They want to beat you on skill, not intimidation. Most of them anyways. :-\
Mike
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Tom,
Good Advice!
Mike,
When I was in Nebraska, and started building my car; There was a lot of friendly folks. As there is not a lot of Legends Cars (or Dwarfs) in my area, The Good People on this forum have been very helpful!!! That's what makes it fun! I could have built a pedal car, and would bet people here would help out.
Steve
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Teaser:
Geoff's New Paint Job
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More:
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Another:
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One More:
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Oops! :-[
Sorry about the double post on the last pic!!!
Steve
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Thanks for posting up the pics Steve!! You always come through for me.
Geoff
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That is an absolutely sexy paint job. I usually hate flame jobs, but that is stunning!
Mike
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Thanks! It looks even better in person. I can't wait to get it outside where I can get some better pictures.
Geoff
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That looks amazing!! :o :o now lets hope it stays that way!!!!
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My 10 year old is now having second thoughts on racing it. He wants me to buy another body ::). I don't think so, it's just a racecar ;D. They make paint every day.
Geoff
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I worked on a racecar that had flames on the paint job once. The guy finally painted over them because everytime he came in the pits I'd throw water on him :(.
I don't have very good memory.
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That is just an AWESOME paint job!
Feel free to tell your paint guy that ! Very Nice Work!!!
You ARE right; It is just paint.
I've never seen a race car finish the season as nice as it started out.
Tom Q.,
I'll bet your driver doesn't have good memories either!
LOL! :P
Steve
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Man that is a nice ride :o ;D
Is that a wrap which is a great big sticker that covers the car or is it painted ???
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It is 100% paint.
Geoff