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Title: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 04, 2013, 12:00:18 pm

This is where I am keeping the list of members that would like one of my kits\parts
The next post is where this thread originally started

Full kit list

1.
2. vince6b
3.
4. dirtracer68
5. canabl
6.
7.
8.


Sending unit only

1. chris mckinney
2.


Gauge only

1.


Shipped

1.  vern houseman      <.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.> shipped 2 pre-production kits
2. Guy from Washington @nationals ( Dennis I think  ???) <.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.> First round production kit

3. Legends16                 <.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.> First round production kit
4. N4Racing                   <.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.> First round production kit (W\ 7th hole pluged)
5. VMS Motorsports  <.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.> First round production kit

Install Info

• Here is a link to a PDF of 600's install instructions. I will eventually get around to making my own version with pictures, but since I do not have a car it might be awhile!
  
• Steps 1-4 do not apply as my gauge is a different size

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_z-RbT1F5xWX2F2Q3lNaURCcVE/edit?usp=sharing (https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B_z-RbT1F5xWX2F2Q3lNaURCcVE/edit?usp=sharing)

• For the gauge you will need to make a 1 5/16" hole ( I will double check that when I get a chance to measure the OD again at work)

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 04, 2013, 01:17:37 pm

Original first post
I am current working on a Digital Gear Indicator kit for the legends  car.  The plate itself is made out of 6061 T6 Aluminum, no more cracked mounting holes or dis-formed\melted plate  :o.

I have a working prototype of the plate done and it's mounted in my dads car. He hasn't had a chance to run it on a track yet, but everything works when hooked up to 600's gauge. There is also a gauge in the works but I'm being d!cked around by the plastic company I ordered from and they seem to be the only place I can find the color I want to use.

Currently I'm not 100% happy with the way the plastic is being held in the aluminum plate, but I have a few ideas on how to fix that.  

A few pics......

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0345_zps4880a746.jpg)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0344_zps72a4a4cd.jpg)

I made that plate earlier this week. I really didn't take any pics of the one on my dad's car before he installed it :-\

I do have a question about 600's plate: What is the seventh unused contact point for and does it have to be there? It would save me some time making these if I don't have to put it on there.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0346_zpsbe1f834e.jpg)

Any info on that seventh contact point would help greatly!

Andrew

Original second post

My dad just reminded me about some pics my brother took and emailed me, completely forgot them  ::)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/DSC_0132_zpsba1b9346.jpg)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/DSC_0129_zpscb53f0fb.jpg)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/DSC_0133_zps5a4a5469.jpg)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/DSC_0127_zpsf6162e72.jpg)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/038_zpsa3665560.jpg)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/036_zpsf2b04c5e.jpg)

My wiring job on that one was not the greatest, got solid wire instead of stranded and was not easy to work with.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: svtmatt on April 04, 2013, 04:21:48 pm

I can't answer your question, but the part looks great.  Nice work!

I wonder how long it will take USLC to rule this better design, more reliable part illegal?

MT

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on April 05, 2013, 06:12:47 am

OR.... Andrew may get a contract with USLC.
 ;D ;D ;D

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on April 05, 2013, 12:39:40 pm

Andrew,

      Tha piece looks great! At some point in time Ill be looking to get one as I do some road course racing up here in the North East. Its on my list of things to do with the car, but $250 for the USLC is a little bit more than I want to spend at the moment.

      Im ineterested to see what the rest of the gauge looks like when your done. If you were to sell these I could be pretty interested. Please keep us informed on your progress. Best of luck!

Eric

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 09, 2013, 04:07:54 am

I got final word back from the plastic place... no go on the diameter\s and colors I want to use, unless I want to order about $500 worth. So I just ordered some clear from McMaster-Carr. Not much progress other wise.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on April 21, 2013, 10:08:06 am

I am very interested in this as well.  Please keep me posted!

Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on April 21, 2013, 08:10:54 pm

Andrew has done some really nice work on this piece. I'm really impressed!!!
They are still doing some testing as I understand.

Steve

Title: Update
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 24, 2013, 04:00:28 am

I have the prototype  housing for the digital read out machined up.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0390_zpseffbcb38.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0390_zpseffbcb38.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0391_zps3c9a6ac1.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0391_zps3c9a6ac1.jpg.html)

I wanted a smoked or tinted acrylic, but would have to buy 4-6 48" bars of material to get the size needed. I may purchase a larger diameter bar from McMaster-Carr and machine it down to what I want. But I'm not there yet.

I need to epoxy the read out into the housing, terminate the leads and wire up the plate I have machined.  Vern Houseman will be the first to receive the full kit, unless something falls through.  Once it gets some track time I'll feel better about selling these to others.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on April 24, 2013, 05:26:31 am

Looking really good, Andrew!!!
 8)

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on April 24, 2013, 07:06:57 pm

Looking Good!

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on April 25, 2013, 12:18:58 pm

Again, looks great Andrew,

      If all works out fine with it Id be pretty interested in purchacing one.

      Just a thought, what about applying some sort of tinted material over the readout, like a window tint or somthing along those lines? Maybe it wouldnt stick? Idk, just an Idea I had.   Either way I like it a lot! Keep us posted.

Best of luck!,

Eric

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 25, 2013, 12:35:45 pm

Quote from: Legends16 on April 25, 2013, 12:18:58 pm

Again, looks great Andrew,

      If all works out fine with it Id be pretty interested in purchacing one.

      Just a thought, what about applying some sort of tinted material over the readout, like a window tint or somthing along those lines? Maybe it wouldnt stick? Idk, just an Idea I had.   Either way I like it a lot! Keep us posted.

Best of luck!,

Eric

Thought of getting some of the spray on stuff. might give it a try down the road.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: VMS Motorsports on April 25, 2013, 01:28:35 pm

Quote from: WIGGLES84 on April 25, 2013, 12:35:45 pm

Quote from: Legends16 on April 25, 2013, 12:18:58 pm

Again, looks great Andrew,

      If all works out fine with it Id be pretty interested in purchacing one.

      Just a thought, what about applying some sort of tinted material over the readout, like a window tint or somthing along those lines? Maybe it wouldnt stick? Idk, just an Idea I had.   Either way I like it a lot! Keep us posted.

Best of luck!,

Eric

Thought of getting some of the spray on stuff. might give it a try down the road.

Andrew

You could try smoke vinyl, like they use for ghost flames

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 26, 2013, 06:10:13 am

I think I have the gauge prototype finished up. Took a few quick pics at work using a test box for setting up sensors on our stamping dies.

(Sorry, just crappy smartphone pics)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0394_zpsb3b3a79b.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0394_zpsb3b3a79b.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0392_zps62700ad5.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0392_zps62700ad5.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0395_zps15332f14.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0395_zps15332f14.jpg.html)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0396_zpsc8756f50.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0396_zpsc8756f50.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0397_zps6399f42d.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0397_zps6399f42d.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0398_zps9049761b.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/IMAG0398_zps9049761b.jpg.html)

Yes, that is 600's "sending unit"  :o

Plug~N~Play ;D

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: svtmatt on April 26, 2013, 10:45:08 am

I want one.

MT

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justaoke on April 26, 2013, 01:56:24 pm

I would like one also!!!! ;D

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: rickmiller48 on April 27, 2013, 07:31:01 am

I already have the indicator from 600 but the plate for the engine is definitely a substandard piece, will you be offering just that part?  If so, I'm sure I'll be in.  (had one melt earlier this year while messing with the carbs, I guess because no air flowing around the engine? oil was hot but wasn't that hot)

Rick Miller

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: s10custom on April 27, 2013, 11:51:23 am

Any idea what you are going to charge?

Robert

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 27, 2013, 07:49:35 pm

Quote from: s10custom on April 27, 2013, 11:51:23 am

Any idea what you are going to charge?

Robert

Not really sure yet. My machining process on the sending unit plate needs to be refined a bit.

I do know it will be cheaper than 600's kit  ;D

Andrew

Title: A little show and tell!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 27, 2013, 08:01:25 pm

For any one in the SE Wisconsin, I'll be at the practice at beaver dam race way with my dad on Sunday (tomorrow). I'll have the gauge and a sending unit without the wire on it if anyone wants to take a look.


That's as long as there's no sudden weather problems!

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 29, 2013, 03:03:49 am

prototype sending unit survived practice  ;D

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on April 29, 2013, 11:22:40 pm

Please let me know when you are ready to sell.

Thanks ,Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 29, 2013, 11:32:13 pm

Earliest I could have a kit ready would be 2~3 weeks. I have to wait for the readouts to come in. Price is still not set though.

My second prototype  sending unit should be shipping out tomorrow along with my first gauge.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on April 29, 2013, 11:36:01 pm

Andrew,

Good to hear that the testing went well!

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on April 30, 2013, 05:17:24 am

OK... So I think I'm ready to gauge the "true interest" in this kit.  If there's enough, I'll make the plunge and buy the minimum order of the Tinted plastic bars. 

either post in this thread or PM me.  Also let me know If you would want the tinted plastic\which one or clear plastic for the gauge.

I will put the list in the first post of this thread.  Having your name on the list WILL NOT  lock you into buying one of the kits if you change your mind.  I just want to get a better handle the amount of work\materials this project will need from me.

Here are the tinted colors I'm looking at. It will be one or the other.
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/2074grayrod_zpse22dcea6.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/2074grayrod_zpse22dcea6.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/gray2074-300-1_zpsf05fb58a.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/gray2074-300-1_zpsf05fb58a.jpg.html)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/2064grayrod_zps6e8ce534.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/2064grayrod_zps6e8ce534.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/gray2064-300-1_zps92260237.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/gray2064-300-1_zps92260237.jpg.html)

I like the darker one

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on April 30, 2013, 07:31:49 am

I sent you a PM Andrew, very interested depending on the cost of the unit. Id go with the tinted one as long as it doesnt darken out the LED to much.

Thanks,

Eric Williams

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on April 30, 2013, 09:06:14 am

Put me down for one also Andrew.  I like the darker tint as well, but don't want the LED to get too dim.

Thanks for the great work, Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: AKRACER on April 30, 2013, 11:25:14 am

would love to know how much one would be.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justaoke on April 30, 2013, 01:25:17 pm

I would like one also. The darker tint is nice as long as you can see it at night.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 02, 2013, 11:18:55 am

Just got RFQ back form the plastic company...... 6 week lead time on either color  :'(

So if I do take the plunge to buy the 5 bar minimum, it will be about 2 months before I could offer a gauge using it  :-\

Maybe I'll just offer the clear for a while and see how things\sales go?

IDK  ???

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on May 02, 2013, 12:27:35 pm

Quote from: WIGGLES84 on May 02, 2013, 11:18:55 am

Just got RFQ back form the plastic company...... 6 week lead time on either color  :'(

So if I do take the plunge to buy the 5 bar minimum, it will be about 2 months before I could offer a gauge using it  :-\

Maybe I'll just offer the clear for a while and see how things\sales go?

IDK  ???

Andrew

Hi Andrew,

Im not dead set on the tinted one. Have you determined your price as of yet?

Thanks,

Eric

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 02, 2013, 01:11:09 pm

Quote from: Legends16 on May 02, 2013, 12:27:35 pm

Quote from: WIGGLES84 on May 02, 2013, 11:18:55 am

Just got RFQ back form the plastic company...... 6 week lead time on either color  :'(

So if I do take the plunge to buy the 5 bar minimum, it will be about 2 months before I could offer a gauge using it  :-\

Maybe I'll just offer the clear for a while and see how things\sales go?

IDK  ???

Andrew

Hi Andrew,

Im not dead set on the tinted one. Have you determined your price as of yet?

Thanks,

Eric

not yet. I was going to send vern houseman the one I made in the beginning of this thread,  but once I had it wired up the threads were too loose. so i ended up making another one. That one is more like what I want the "production" one to be like.  the plastic is threaded in so it should never be pushed\pulled out. still ended up in front of the mill for about 1.75 hours to make that one (mill,chamfer,spot,drill,spot,drill,drill,tap,put threads on plastic,insert,spot,drill,tap  ???)

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/0df618b6-9970-45e0-bcf4-e523ad40640c_zps30d4578e.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/0df618b6-9970-45e0-bcf4-e523ad40640c_zps30d4578e.jpg.html)

Would really like to get it under 1 hour

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on May 02, 2013, 01:25:44 pm

Andrew,  I would be happy with a clear plastic cover, and maybe upgrade later with a tinted one if they become available.  There are things we can do individually to darken them up if they are too bright at night.

Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justaoke on May 03, 2013, 11:02:42 am

On the list for a possible kit! Thank you!

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 04, 2013, 11:03:52 am

Well.... looks like races are canceled here again on the weather  >:(  Got to love Wisconsin!!!

Hopefully Vern will have time to get his kit installed during the next week so there's a better chance of getting track time on the sending unit.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on May 04, 2013, 10:14:42 pm

If I get it ,Monday or anytime before Thursday it will be in my car for Friday nite race at Big Diamond speedway

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 05, 2013, 09:03:01 am

Quote from: WIGGLES84 on May 04, 2013, 11:03:52 am

Well.... looks like races are canceled here again on the weather  >:(  Got to love Wisconsin!!!

Hopefully Vern will have time to get his kit installed during the next week so there's a better chance of getting track time on the sending unit.

Andrews

Best part is that it was sunny the rest of the day afternoon! The track is about 1.5hrs from where I live, but we didn't see a drop of rain!

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends57x on May 05, 2013, 09:51:43 am

Andrew,   Just curious, what city are you located in?

Title: Re: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: rickmiller48 on May 05, 2013, 10:54:41 am

Vern,
Let us know if you get it in time.  I would like to see it Friday if you have it.

Rick  Miller

Sent from my PG86100 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on May 05, 2013, 11:26:27 am

Quote from: Legends57x on May 05, 2013, 09:51:43 am

Andrew,   Just curious, what city are you located in?

Mark,

Andrew is located in the Milwaukee, WI area.

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on May 06, 2013, 09:04:54 pm

Well I received the gear indicator kit from Andrew today, Nice work ,it will be getting installed in my car tomorrow nite .Nice job . Will be taking pics of install .

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: tbevirt on May 07, 2013, 03:59:08 pm

You wouldnt happen to have a dimensioned drawing would you? Over at the USC autocross project we would love something like this. We dont have money but we have tools. Id love to try to build one.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on May 07, 2013, 09:19:08 pm

Well I received Andrews gear indicator kit today, very nice kit, and a very easy install, I am kinda diggin the clear front now,when you shift the gears it aluminates red when the numbers are up and green when in neutral.The whole circle aluminates really neet.Can't wait to try out Fri nite.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Earnst85 on May 07, 2013, 10:30:16 pm

The numbers lit on your dash may be the brightest thing at Big Diamond... You know how dark it is in turn three.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on May 08, 2013, 05:15:44 am

Lol so true Mr Earnst

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 08, 2013, 09:34:53 am

Quote from: Vern Houseman on May 07, 2013, 09:19:08 pm

Well I received Andrews gear indicator kit today, very nice kit, and a very easy install, I am kinda diggin the clear front now,when you shift the gears it aluminates red when the numbers are up and green when in neutral.The whole circle aluminates really neet.Can't wait to try out Fri nite.

I'm glad your happy with it  ;D

If it ends up being to bright I may have to pony up & buy the tinted plastic, and just hope there will be enough sales to make it pan out.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Earnst85 on May 08, 2013, 12:04:29 pm

Could you save some cost by not making it round? It only needs to be big enough for the number display correct?. You could then screw an oversized mounting plate to the front that could rivet to the dash. That would eliminate the machined threads into your round bar.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 08, 2013, 02:27:48 pm

Quote from: Earnst85 on May 08, 2013, 12:04:29 pm

Could you save some cost by not making it round? It only needs to be big enough for the number display correct?. You could then screw an oversized mounting plate to the front that could rivet to the dash. That would eliminate the machined threads into your round bar.

I need at least a 1" diameter to clear the pocket for the gauge. Not really sure what you mean by "an oversized mounting plate". Do you have any pics or links?

Machining the threads isn't really an issue, I have access to a cnc lathe without a tool changer.

I guess if you guys wanted it really down and dirty I could just get sheet stock, glue the read out to it and put in some holes for either bolts\screws or rivets. But I don't know if I could bring myself to go the route! :-\

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Earnst85 on May 08, 2013, 03:44:13 pm

The sheet stock idea you mentioned was what I had in mind. I was thinking of possibly a small electronics box (like from radio shack) to hold the display  with sheet stock cover (lid).  The other thing about an oversized plate is kinda like the gauge panels you can get through speedway motors, just a plate with a sized hole (or rectangle) for your gauge to slide into and rivet to the dash. The screws would have to hold the gauge to the plate instead of your threads. If you have access to a cnc and the threads aren't a money issue, then by all means go with that. It looks great the way you have it. I just figured any reduction of machining would save you cost and open up some other possibilities for housing shapes.

My only concern is if you sell too many, when does INEX say its a non-as deliverd part that gives onboard data acquisition?

You got a great product as is. Keep up the good work.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on May 13, 2013, 02:12:15 pm

Vern,

How did the testing turn out? Was waiting for you to post.

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: racintaz99 on May 13, 2013, 02:15:42 pm

Andrew told me that they got rained out. We finally got to race here in Wi and mine has held up very well so far.



Scott

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on May 13, 2013, 02:24:17 pm

Scott,

Thanks for the update.
I was impressed from Andrews initial design. We have had a few members over the years try to build one. Andrew did very well!

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on May 13, 2013, 09:24:38 pm

Sorry I did not post we did get rained out, so this fri nite is the next adventure will let ya know

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Richie25x on May 15, 2013, 07:06:55 pm

Here is a few pictures of the gauge we made.
Last year we used just a standard bar with led lights.
Would like to hear your guy's thoughts.

1.
http://hostingbytes.us/images/3/7019978.jpg

2.
http://hostingbytes.us/images/3/2744573.jpg

3.
http://hostingbytes.us/images/3/3527282.jpg

4.
http://hostingbytes.us/images/3/4099238.jpg

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on May 15, 2013, 07:32:47 pm

Richie,

Looks good! I like the aluminum. Classy.

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on May 15, 2013, 10:53:12 pm

I agree, that looks pretty good.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 16, 2013, 04:50:00 am

Quote from: Richie25x on May 15, 2013, 07:06:55 pm

Here is a few pictures of the gauge we made.
Last year we used just a standard bar with led lights.
Would like to hear your guy's thoughts.

1.
(http://hostingbytes.us/images/3/7019978.jpg)

2.
(http://hostingbytes.us/images/3/2744573.jpg)

3.
(http://hostingbytes.us/images/3/3527282.jpg)

4.
(http://hostingbytes.us/images/3/4099238.jpg)

I think that looks very nice! 

Did you make the sending unit as well? if so, would you mind sharing what material you used and how it is holding up?  Also looks like there's no contact at the natural position.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Richie25x on May 16, 2013, 10:12:39 am

Thank you. Yes My dad made the sending unit as well.
It is made of a high grade plastic not sure what the name is.  I will let you know when i find out.
My dad had it sitting around for a number of years 20+  Hes had it since he starting machining.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 16, 2013, 10:52:06 am

Quote from: Richie25x on May 16, 2013, 10:12:39 am

Thank you. Yes My dad made the sending unit as well.
It is made of a high grade plastic not sure what the name is.  I will let you know when i find out.
My dad had it sitting around for a number of years 20+  Hes had it since he starting machining.

Finding a plastic that can be machined and hold up to high temps has been a challenge. Most cost an arm and a leg so doing R&D with them would be very costly!

On that note, does anyone know how hot these engines can run?

Andrew

PS,
I was looking back @ some of the posts from DanH about the sending unit he was developing, I hadn't realized you have been looking for an alternative  to 600 kit for ~4 years Vern!

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Richie25x on May 16, 2013, 05:23:53 pm

The material is canvas phenolic.  We used this all last year 23 races it is holding up well.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on May 16, 2013, 08:46:42 pm

From the picture, it looks like it could be Micarta.  This type of material is used in a lot of applications, and high heat is one of them.  McMaster-Carr sells a similar product here: http://www.mcmaster.com/#garolite/=ms4xk5 .  

I think Micarta might be a brand name.  Here is more info: http://www.eplastics.com/Plastic/Micarta

Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 17, 2013, 04:00:30 am

Thank you very much for the material info guys!  ;D

looks like Garolite (CE) might be the common name for that material. McMasters site says 235 degrees is its max temp. that would open up a few different materials for me to try @ or above that temp.

So I guess my next question to all is: What would you prefer as the material for the sending unit? Aluminum or a plastic?

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on May 17, 2013, 06:44:31 am

Andrew,

I like the aluminum piece. No plastic to break or warp.
Although the plastic material may be cheaper for any kind of production.
My thought, for what it's worth.

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on May 17, 2013, 08:55:43 am

I would prefer aluminum as well.

Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 17, 2013, 09:03:17 am

The only thing that makes me want to try\do the plastic is that it would be less work on my end  ;D

And then I could be like 600 and get repeat costumers  ::), lol

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: VMS Motorsports on May 17, 2013, 10:03:13 am

My 2 cents, for what it's worth, stay with the aluminum.
Most people will pay for reliability and quality

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on May 17, 2013, 12:33:38 pm

I'm with the norm. I would pay a little more for the aluminum piece.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on May 17, 2013, 01:18:30 pm

I feel the same I have the unite and I would not change anything Andrew....

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on May 18, 2013, 01:53:05 am

Well just got home from the races, All I have to say about Andrews  gear indicator kit is ? LOVE IT, I wouldn't tint the lens, it's not to bright in my opinion.easy to read, dosnt distract you eighter.Had no issues at all. This man has a good deal going hear.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: racintaz99 on May 18, 2013, 04:04:08 am

My opinion, I would keep what you have going and not worry about the plastic plate for now.



Scott

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: racintaz99 on May 20, 2013, 10:56:39 am

Another race and we still don't have any problems of any sort with the plate.


Scott

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 20, 2013, 01:31:50 pm

looks like its time to get the working on fixtures to make a few at a time!  ;D

Anyone know how to add more hours in a day?

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Earnst85 on May 20, 2013, 10:46:22 pm

Quote from: WIGGLES84 on May 20, 2013, 01:31:50 pm

looks like its time to get the working on fixtures to make a few at a time!  ;D

Anyone know how to add more hours in a day?

Andrew

Well there is one day in the fall that has 25 hours... or just start yesterday.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on May 20, 2013, 11:00:00 pm

WHAT?!!!! There aren't 32 hours in a day?
Somebody should tell my employer.
 :D :D :D

Andrew,

Stick with the aluminum. So far, results are good with the lenses. Don't make it more expensive than you have to.

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 21, 2013, 09:12:26 am

Got stuck running a production job last night so I had some in between runs. Got started on the fixture for the sending unit.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130521_071026_zps2cd6c2d7.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130521_071026_zps2cd6c2d7.jpg.html)
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130521_071041_zps10a19faf.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130521_071041_zps10a19faf.jpg.html)

About 75% done.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on May 21, 2013, 09:17:44 am

Looking good!

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on May 23, 2013, 10:29:27 am

Got some time to finish the fixture.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130523_060401_zpsb7c6a54c.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130523_060401_zpsb7c6a54c.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130523_060348_zps6d442d8c.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130523_060348_zps6d442d8c.jpg.html)

Now.... to find the time to try it out!

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on May 28, 2013, 08:59:15 am

Well another nite of testing with Andrews shift indicator kit and no issues at all really works great cant wait to get another one for my new car thanks Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on May 28, 2013, 09:10:20 am

Sweet!

Yep Andrew, keep things as they are. Sounds and looks like a quality piece.
 ;)

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on June 11, 2013, 07:35:28 am

Hi Andrew,

     Any further progress with this? Is there any sort of price tag your thinking of? Thinking about a white one.

Thanks,

Eric

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on June 19, 2013, 12:28:12 pm

making a little more head way on a few more kits.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130619_053419_zps5753bc30.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130619_053419_zps5753bc30.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130618_064113_zps330392c2.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130618_064113_zps330392c2.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130619_053352_zpsaf48ac8a.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130619_053352_zpsaf48ac8a.jpg.html)

*3 sending unit plates
*8 guage housings
*35 contact points
*10 nuts to hold in the gauge assembly
*10 digital read outs (No pic on hand  :-\)

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on June 19, 2013, 03:20:15 pm

Looking good man!

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on June 20, 2013, 09:50:04 am

got the fixture to turn the face of the gauge housing finished last night

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130620_063527_zps5a0585fe.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130620_063527_zps5a0585fe.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130620_063618_zps3964110b.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130620_063618_zps3964110b.jpg.html)

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on June 21, 2013, 11:36:17 am

Another step closer

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130621_064226_zps11cd0a08.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130621_064226_zps11cd0a08.jpg.html)

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: dirtracer68 on July 02, 2013, 10:10:15 am

Quote from: WIGGLES84 on June 19, 2013, 12:28:12 pm

making a little more head way on a few more kits.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130619_053419_zps5753bc30.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130619_053419_zps5753bc30.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130618_064113_zps330392c2.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130618_064113_zps330392c2.jpg.html)(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130619_053352_zpsaf48ac8a.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130619_053352_zpsaf48ac8a.jpg.html)

*3 sending unit plates
*8 guage housings
*35 contact points
*10 nuts to hold in the gauge assembly
*10 digital read outs (No pic on hand  :-\)

Andrew

Andrew, the craftsmanship looks great. Any idea on a finished date and price? I am definately interested.

Chris Ward #33

Title: It's been awhile...... time for an update!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on September 17, 2013, 10:05:19 am

Alright, I haven't been spending much time lately on this project. Most of my time has been spent on my CNC conversion of a bench top mill.

But I recently started to work on this project again and hope to have a few kits ready for the dirt nationals @ Beaver dam next month.

I been having issues with getting wire that has no blemishes from MSC..... so I decided to cover the wire with expanding mesh. Testers below
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130917_013310_zps437b3132.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130917_013310_zps437b3132.jpg.html) (http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130917_013211_zps3e4a5ad0.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130917_013211_zps3e4a5ad0.jpg.html)

I really liked the red mesh\ black shrink tube combo, So I did the one sending unit I have wired up in that combo:
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130917_013142_zps80a4374d.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130917_013142_zps80a4374d.jpg.html)

Then I did the one gauge I have done in black. But I already had the fuse holder attached and could not get the shrink tube over it  :'(. So I had to just use electrical tape :-\
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130917_013039_zpscfcd22dd.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130917_013039_zpscfcd22dd.jpg.html)

Again, I REALY like the Red Mesh \ black shrink tube combo. Which do you think looks better?

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: phylzub02 on September 17, 2013, 08:31:48 pm

do you have a price on these yet??? I am interested in 1 or 2 ...  frank 208-353-2283 thank yu..

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on September 17, 2013, 08:39:03 pm

Andrew,

Looks nice (more finished) with the mesh and shrink tubing. Nice work!

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on September 18, 2013, 05:48:53 am

Andrew are you going to be at nationals ?

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on September 18, 2013, 07:09:48 am

Is there a set price on these yet?

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on September 18, 2013, 08:59:34 am

I like the red mesh with black shrink tube.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on September 18, 2013, 12:49:18 pm

Quote from: Legends16 on September 18, 2013, 07:09:48 am

Is there a set price on these yet?

Quote from: phylzub02 on September 17, 2013, 08:31:48 pm

do you have a price on these yet??? I am interested in 1 or 2 ...  frank 208-353-2283 thank yu..

I want to start the Price @ $200 for the whole kit and $125 for just the sending unit. Everything is still Plug and Play with 600's kit.

Quote from: justfreaky on September 17, 2013, 08:39:03 pm

Andrew,

Looks nice (more finished) with the mesh and shrink tubing. Nice work!

Steve

Thank you

Quote from: Vern Houseman on September 18, 2013, 05:48:53 am

Andrew are you going to be at nationals ?

I think I'll be there at least 1 day, might be there the Thursday before as well.

Quote from: N4Racing on September 18, 2013, 08:59:34 am

I like the red mesh with black shrink tube.

Seems to be the the general consensus so far. If there's no objections by tomorrow, I'm going to order more of the red mesh and other odds and ends to finish the kits I have in-process.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: phylzub02 on September 18, 2013, 09:51:51 pm

when can we order them??? for I am going to want atleast  1 kit now...thanks frank 208-353-2283

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justaoke on September 18, 2013, 11:01:52 pm

Andrew, I am sorry to say that I wont need a kit. We had a engine blow in front of us and my son slammed the wall full bore into a turn. He is o.k. but our car is totaled.  Thanks for messaging me and keep up the good work!!

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on September 26, 2013, 12:38:39 pm

Getting closer to having the kits ready.

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20130925_132210_zpsbd912c64.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20130925_132210_zpsbd912c64.jpg.html)

I think with the next round I will ditch the yellow fuse holder and give these atc self tapping fuse holders a try.
(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/3mtappingfuseholder_zpseca61eb2.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/3mtappingfuseholder_zpseca61eb2.jpg.html)

the yellow ones are meant for a heavier gauge of wire so I have to soldier the wire in after crimping the end. It is time consuming and a real PITA to not melt the plastic as I stick soldiering iron down the tube.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on September 26, 2013, 07:51:39 pm

Soldiering is the prefferable method. Use shrink tubing after soldiering.
My method. FWIW

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on September 27, 2013, 01:09:02 am

Quote from: justfreaky on September 26, 2013, 07:51:39 pm

Soldiering is the prefferable method. Use shrink tubing after soldiering.
My method. FWIW

Steve

I'd love to find a housing setup that the metal comes out of the housing for soldiering or even crimping. But I have not been able to find such a setup.

I can get fuse holders that have a loop of wire already attached so I could then soldier the ends of the wire together but I was trying to keep the wire path as clean as possible. (Just my own anal-ness on making look clean)


So if anyone knows where I can get fuse holders that come apart for assembly, please let me know.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: knoxracing on September 27, 2013, 08:15:02 am

This is my first comment on this unit. It is very nice and you have done some nice work, the "suitcase style fuse holder that bites into the wire would really be a poor choice, they are not meant for this type of application. Keep up the nice work!! Is there any pricing attached to this indicator unit yet?

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Earnst85 on September 27, 2013, 08:45:19 am

 "the suitcase style fuse holder that bites into the wire would really be a poor choice"

I couldn't agree more. I used one on my lawnmower and the vibrations cause it to open and become disconnected. It only lasted 3 times before I replaced it with something else.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on September 27, 2013, 09:57:09 am

Quote from: knoxracing on September 27, 2013, 08:15:02 am

This is my first comment on this unit. It is very nice and you have done some nice work, the "suitcase style fuse holder that bites into the wire would really be a poor choice, they are not meant for this type of application. Keep up the nice work!! Is there any pricing attached to this indicator unit yet?

Quote

"the suitcase style fuse holder that bites into the wire would really be a poor choice"

I couldn't agree more. I used one on my lawnmower and the vibrations cause it to open and become disconnected. It only lasted 3 times before I replaced it with something else.

Thank you for the input, this is why I posted it up. I have no real experience with adding inline fuse on anything smaller than an 8 gauge wire (car audio).

I guess I'll keep looking for something else.

Question...... is there a fuse box at all in these cars?

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: VMS Motorsports on September 27, 2013, 10:38:11 am

No. I have seen people use junction blocks and in-line fuses before (once or twice), but there is no fuse box

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: knoxracing on September 27, 2013, 10:53:44 am

A crimp sleeve with shrink tube over the crimp would be fine. They also sell butt splice crimp connectors that are heatable. In other words the heat shrink is part of the connector.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on September 27, 2013, 12:20:08 pm

Here are a couple of choices from a quick McMaster-Carr search:

http://www.mcmaster.com/#panel-mount-fuse-holders/=oovv5r

http://www.mcmaster.com/#inline-fuse-holders/=oovvgy

Here is another place you may want to check out:

http://www.wiringproducts.com/fuses-fuse-blocks-and-fuse-holders/fuse-holders/atc-fuse-holders

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on September 27, 2013, 01:26:33 pm

mcmaster is where I've been getting the ones that I've used so far.

I didn't think that a panel mount would be something that people would want?  ???  So... is panel mounting for the fuse holder a desired feature?

I also found this one with 10" leads attached to both ends.  I wouldn't mind having to make one connection at the gauge and be done  ;D

http://www.altex.com/Philmore-In-Line-Fuse-Holder-FH65-P147809.aspx?gclid=CNjxl5Dw67kCFSdk7AodHC8Adg
 (http://www.altex.com/Philmore-In-Line-Fuse-Holder-FH65-P147809.aspx?gclid=CNjxl5Dw67kCFSdk7AodHC8Adg)


Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on September 28, 2013, 03:33:54 pm

I am OK with that, the price is right.  But, I do like the new style fuses better.  More visibility if it is blown, and easier to trace a signal with (you don't have to take anything apart).

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on September 28, 2013, 06:29:16 pm

Andrew,

You can pick up an inline fuse for dirt cheap. I would trust that a bit more than the crimp on piece.

Steve

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: racintaz99 on September 30, 2013, 01:30:00 pm

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do you have a price on these yet??? I am interested in 1 or 2 ...  frank 208-353-2283 thank yu..

I want to start the Price @ $200 for the whole kit and $125 for just the sending unit. Everything is still Plug and Play with 600's kit.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 10, 2013, 11:26:25 am

(http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n589/wiggles84/GIP%20Pics/20131010_011022_zps4a47118c.jpg) (http://s1141.photobucket.com/user/wiggles84/media/GIP%20Pics/20131010_011022_zps4a47118c.jpg.html)


I will have these at dirt nationals this weekend at Beaver Dam Raceway. I'll be there starting tonight for the inspection\practice\pot luck dinner and for sure on Friday. Saturday is up in the air for now.  I'll be with my Dad, # 99W.

 Stop by if you want to purchase one or just take a look. I have six full kits to sell @ $200 each. I would like to sell these ones as kits. I will make more of the sending units with the next batch to sell as replacements to 600's kit.

Payment will have to be either Paypal or cash (I believe the track has wifi , I don't remember how good the cell phone reception is)

See you there,
Andrew

P.S.
I may be in Zombie mode today as I more than likely won't get a nap in before going and I worked last night.  I'll also post where we are in the pits once we are setup.

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: racintaz99 on October 13, 2013, 09:46:05 am

Now that our season is complete for 2013 and the Dirt nationals are done I can say that I have not had any issues with this in my car all year. I have the first edition of this as a testing unit and Andrew has made many improvements since mine was installed.

You will be hard pressed to find a better quality piece that is made in the US and something that is not mass produced overseas with sub par materials.


Scott

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Vern Houseman on October 13, 2013, 11:56:34 pm

Scott so true I have also have had Andrews kit in both of my cars all year and Andrew has some good stuff here .Also what good to meet him at dirt nationals

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: racintaz99 on October 14, 2013, 11:42:47 am

It was nice to also meet you at the nationals......sometimes hard to put a face to the person with only seeing text.

Scott

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 14, 2013, 11:49:50 am

Quote from: racintaz99 on October 13, 2013, 09:46:05 am

Now that our season is complete for 2013 and the Dirt nationals are done I can say that I have not had any issues with this in my car all year. I have the first edition of this as a testing unit and Andrew has made many improvements since mine was installed.

You will be hard pressed to find a better quality piece that is made in the US and something that is not mass produced overseas with sub par materials.


Scott

If one of the sending units was going to fail, I'd say this one would be it! but it held up to a full season.

Quote from: Vern Houseman on October 13, 2013, 11:56:34 pm

Scott so true I have also have had Andrews kit in both of my cars all year and Andrew has some good stuff here .Also what good to meet him at dirt nationals

It was nice to put a face to the name. Congrats on taking 5th place. Hope they didn't rip into your car to much at inspection!

Let me know if\when you figure out the issue with the N position on the first pre~production kit. My gut is telling me that its the digital read out, given that one was not sealed up with epoxy like they are now.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on October 14, 2013, 01:52:14 pm

Andrew,

     I sent you a message. I want one.

Thanks,

Eric

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 15, 2013, 09:21:25 am

Replied, I was already in bed before you sent it yesterday.

Mondays are the rifest day of the week for me, more so than the 24 hr Fridays!

Andrew

Quote from: Legends16 on October 14, 2013, 01:52:14 pm

Andrew,

     I sent you a message. I want one.

Thanks,

Eric

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 22, 2013, 10:26:42 am

For those currently on my  list,
I sent you a message. If I don't hear back by the end of the week I plan on offering the kits I have left to the others.


Everyone else,
I am going to start getting my list of tooling and materials for the next run of parts together. Let me know if you want one of the kits or a sending unit and I will put you on the list. I will not be asking for any money down, just trying to get an idea on how many units I should shot for this run.

I was also thinking of offering a plate with just the neutral position to replace the oem one.  Someone also suggested making a delete cover for those who just want to replace the plastic piece and forget about it.

So let me know if any of that peaks your interest and lets get that list growing!  ;D
Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: Legends16 on October 23, 2013, 12:27:27 pm

I got my gear indicator from Andrew over the weekend and its a great looking piece! I look forward to installing it and seeing it in action next season. Thanks Andrew!

Eric Williams

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on October 24, 2013, 08:42:40 am

Andrew,

I received my kit last night.  It looks great! Can't wait to get it installed.

Thanks again, Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 24, 2013, 11:44:48 am

Quote from: Legends16 on October 23, 2013, 12:27:27 pm

I got my gear indicator from Andrew over the weekend and its a great looking piece! I look forward to installing it and seeing it in action next season. Thanks Andrew!

Eric Williams

Quote from: N4Racing on October 24, 2013, 08:42:40 am

Andrew,

I received my kit last night.  It looks great! Can't wait to get it installed.

Thanks again, Jeff

Glad everything showed up without issue.

Jeff, how did the box hold up? I ask because I just started using USPS to ship from home. Up till now I was using UPS thru work, but the shipping guy keep shipping it for free and wouldn't let me pay for. My work lets us ship stuff for free.

I know I know, what's the problem right?  ???  In the end I don't want my side projects fu(king up my day (well I'm 3rd shift so night) job.

Also new boxes.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on October 24, 2013, 03:33:59 pm

The box was in perfect shape.  USPS also has a flat rate box , about $5 that your kit would fit into.  With some bubble wrap it should be no problem ,and you don't have to pay for boxes.

Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 25, 2013, 09:26:39 am

Quote from: N4Racing on October 24, 2013, 03:33:59 pm

The box was in perfect shape.  USPS also has a flat rate box , about $5 that your kit would fit into.  With some bubble wrap it should be no problem ,and you don't have to pay for boxes.

Jeff

Yeah, I've tried the small flat rate box and its to small for the gauge. I would have to step up to the medium box. flat rate is like $13-$15. I could just use the box and pay by the weight and it would be the same as with my box.
(To be honest, I'm one of those people that looks at the box\package that stuff comes in. Not to the point where I won't buy something just because of the packaging. I'm a fan of Apple's packaging and the box my GS4 came in was nice too.)

Andrew
(packaging weirdo ;D )

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: N4Racing on October 25, 2013, 03:57:29 pm

I understand!  It is all one big package that you send to people.  The 1st impression means a lot.

Jeff

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: VMS Motorsports on October 25, 2013, 06:12:37 pm

Quote from: WIGGLES84 on October 25, 2013, 09:26:39 am

Quote from: N4Racing on October 24, 2013, 03:33:59 pm

The box was in perfect shape.  USPS also has a flat rate box , about $5 that your kit would fit into.  With some bubble wrap it should be no problem ,and you don't have to pay for boxes.

Jeff

Yeah, I've tried the small flat rate box and its to small for the gauge. I would have to step up to the medium box. flat rate is like $13-$15. I could just use the box and pay by the weight and it would be the same as with my box.
(To be honest, I'm one of those people that looks at the box\package that stuff comes in. Not to the point where I won't buy something just because of the packaging. I'm a fan of Apple's packaging and the box my GS4 came in was nice too.)

Andrew
(packaging weirdo ;D )

What size boxes do you need? I have a few different sizes that I buy in quantity, could give you a few when you need them

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 27, 2013, 06:27:43 am

Quote from: VMS Motorsports on October 25, 2013, 06:12:37 pm

Quote from: WIGGLES84 on October 25, 2013, 09:26:39 am

Quote from: N4Racing on October 24, 2013, 03:33:59 pm

The box was in perfect shape.  USPS also has a flat rate box , about $5 that your kit would fit into.  With some bubble wrap it should be no problem ,and you don't have to pay for boxes.

Jeff

Yeah, I've tried the small flat rate box and its to small for the gauge. I would have to step up to the medium box. flat rate is like $13-$15. I could just use the box and pay by the weight and it would be the same as with my box.
(To be honest, I'm one of those people that looks at the box\package that stuff comes in. Not to the point where I won't buy something just because of the packaging. I'm a fan of Apple's packaging and the box my GS4 came in was nice too.)

Andrew
(packaging weirdo ;D )

What size boxes do you need? I have a few different sizes that I buy in quantity, could give you a few when you need them

I'm using 8*8*3 mailer boxes from uline, with my works discount of coarse. I had got them for my custom emblem project on the MK6 Gti. If I go much smaller on the box, the shipping label won't fit either.

Right now I really have to figure out faster processes to bring down my hands on time for making these so I can keep the price where it's at. It's currently costing me $15 +  for paypal fees, shipping & insurance and of course the packaging ;D

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 30, 2013, 09:49:22 am

Well, It's been about two weeks since I messaged those on the list and I still 3 kits left.  So I am going to offer them up to the rest of the forum.  Price is still $200 shipped in the lower 48. If you are else where I'll still ship it to you, but you'll have to pick up the extra cost.

Just send a message and we'll take it from there.

For those on the list, I'll keep you on the top for the next run until you tell me other wise.

As for the future of this project, I'm not sure where it will end up ??? I haven't gotten any new names to add to the list.  So for now I'm going to put it to the side and focus on my CNC mill conversion. Once interest comes back around I'll start working on it again. No sense in putting a bunch of time it these for them to sit till next race season  :-\

Once there's a few new names on the list I'll start making them again.  Just don't wait until a week before the season starts, chances are you won't see any kits for a few races! ;D

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: VMS Motorsports on October 30, 2013, 10:32:37 am

Things are usually slower from now until the end of January, at least that's been my experience.
Then people get ramped up for next season after a little break

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on October 30, 2013, 11:07:02 am

Quote from: VMS Motorsports on October 30, 2013, 10:32:37 am

Things are usually slower from now until the end of January, at least that's been my experience.
Then people get ramped up for next season after a little break

Yeah, that's what I was figuring. 

And this is the time of the year that things slow down at work and it's easier to work on side projects vs working over time. Guess I'll just have to work on projects that cost me moneys vs making me moneys ::)

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: xfire62 on November 06, 2013, 07:51:38 pm

I sent you a pm with my info, I'm interested in getting one of your kits.

Bill

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on November 22, 2013, 10:01:29 am

Just rapped up helping Legends16 with troubleshooting a non working install of one of my Digital Gear Indicator Kits. In the end it turned out to be the contact point had to large of a flat on the end from years of shifting.

http://www.legendsracer.com/index.php?topic=3259.0 (http://www.legendsracer.com/index.php?topic=3259.0)

There's a few ways get around this happening in the future:

*Make sure the contacts stick out past the plate (not sure I like that idea)

*Make sure the contacts are flush with plate and warn everyone that it may not work depending on the wear on your contact point (easiest on my end, but not the way I like to do things)
Currently the contacts are flush or just below the surface maybe 1/16 of a turn or less.

*Offer the contact point as part of the kit (best option in my eyes, even if you don't need you'll have it if the aluminum plate wears down the one you have faster?)


What do you think? leaning toward option 3 myself

Andrew
 

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: tdubk on November 30, 2013, 04:39:00 am

Do you have a site or anywhere to purchase these? or are you just taking orders here?
Thanks,
Ian

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: VMS Motorsports on November 30, 2013, 09:01:18 am

Quote from: tdubk on November 30, 2013, 04:39:00 am

Do you have a site or anywhere to purchase these? or are you just taking orders here?
Thanks,
Ian

Just contact him through here

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: WIGGLES84 on November 30, 2013, 01:56:18 pm

Quote from: tdubk on November 30, 2013, 04:39:00 am

Do you have a site or anywhere to purchase these? or are you just taking orders here?
Thanks,
Ian

sent you a Message, but will answer here for others get the info.

I am currently only selling these thru this forum and locally.

If Ian ends up buying a kit I maybe sold out until the next production round, I have one other sale pending.

The plan is to start the next round of production in the new year. I'm thinking of focusing on the sending unit, a replacement "neutral switch" unit ( just the neutral wire ) and neutral switch delete plate ( just a plate to cover the opening ).  Then make gauges to sell the full kits.

Andrew

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: DBH Racing on June 01, 2018, 02:51:10 pm

Andrew,
Are you still making a Digital Gear Indicator Kit? 

Title: Re: Digital Gear Indicator Kit, Not from 600!
Post by: justfreaky on June 02, 2018, 01:21:42 am

Jim (VMS Motorsports) has his contact information. Give him a call at the number above. Andrews gear indicator units are the best! Very well made.

Steve