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LEGENDS => General => Topic started by: idaholegend on February 16, 2014, 10:40:25 am
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We have been doing some research on bearing spacers and think there may be a use for them in our legend. First off are they legal, and if so is there anyone out there using them?
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There is absolutely a use for them.
I know people were running them last year, but I cannot say if they are legal or not.
it's not in the rulebook.
Best thing would be to email Scott R. Then you have an answer you can carry with you to the track
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Thanks, Jim. I will email Scot.
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They work great!! Very easy to set and really nice to just tighten the spindle nut tight and pin it.
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I've been selling a lot of them, so they will need to DQ a whole lot of cars.
I see it as a set-up tool.
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Jim, how much for a set shipped to Boise, ID?
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I was told they are not inex legal.. better not use them at meridian speedway.. they will be teched...not worth being DQ'd over in my book...just my thoughts..
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INEX has just came out with a ruling about bearing spacers. It looks like the DRP bearing spacers that Jim(VMS) are selling are illegal.
]http://www.uslegendcars.com/documents/legend_cars_bandolero_cars_front_bearing_spacers.pdf] (http://www.uslegendcars.com/documents/legend_cars_bandolero_cars_front_bearing_spacers.pdf)
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I do not understand why it can not be adjustable. The reason for the adjustable is to keep the rotor off the pads.
Way around it is to set my drp spacers to lenght then my dad can machine them to exact size.
Problem with this is each car will be different even different from side to side on cars.
What next they are going to put a rule on length of spacer!!!
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$6000 motors blowing up during practice and INEX is putting all of their energy into outlawing bearing spacers.
Love the logic. Anyone have an explanation as to why they are illegal? No 1 piece spacer is going to work correctly, using a 30 year old hub and USLC's own poor machinung tolerances, you will not achieve proper pre-load.
These fellows will put themselves out of business with their own lack of intelligence.
If anyone wants a part outlawed, have me sell it. USLC will write a rule against it.
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If anyone wants a part outlawed, have me sell it. USLC will write a rule against it.
Haha! I was thinking the same thing.
LOL!
Steve
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I do not understand why it can not be adjustable. The reason for the adjustable is to keep the rotor off the pads.
Way around it is to set my drp spacers to lenght then my dad can machine them to exact size.
Problem with this is each car will be different even different from side to side on cars.
What next they are going to put a rule on length of spacer!!!
Exactly. You will need to get an exact measurement for each and every spindle, then have each spacer manufactured specially for you.
That is legal?
That is INEXpensive?
DRP will make you a solid spacer, but it's going to be more expensive than the adjustable one.
Someone please explain the logic to me...
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I do not understand why it can not be adjustable. The reason for the adjustable is to keep the rotor off the pads.
Way around it is to set my drp spacers to lenght then my dad can machine them to exact size.
Problem with this is each car will be different even different from side to side on cars.
What next they are going to put a rule on length of spacer!!!
Exactly. You will need to get an exact measurement for each and every spindle, then have each spacer manufactured specially for you.
That is legal?
That is INEXpensive?
DRP will make you a solid spacer, but it's going to be more expensive than the adjustable one.
Someone please explain the logic to me...
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Or i can throw a tack weld on each side of my drp spacer this way it in non adjustable now right??
When i need to adjust it lightly grind the weld away and readjust.
Making the spacer is no issue for me. Just a pain to set each side mic the spacer just to make a solid one.
Did they not see this would happen?? hahahahaha just allow the adjustable spacer call it a day.
It makes no difference adjustable or not.
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I was thinking the same thing once it has a weld on it its no longer adjustable and it becomes one piece??
Dan
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Looking at the picture and reading the release, looks like they will only allow a steel tube for a spacer.
"Spacers used between the bearings on the front spindles will be permitted
as long as it is a simple, magnetic, “piece of tubing” design."
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Anybody gotten a response from INEX as to why these were outlawed?
Scott never got back to me...
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Per Scott Reinhart this afternoon:
Mr. Bucher,
We are doing some research on them now.
However, They were not "suddenly outlawed".
They were never requested, approved, a part offered by US Legends Cars or addressed by the INEX rulebook.
Sincerely,
Scott Reinhardt
(INEX Executive Technical Director)
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>:( in other words were mad because we (inex) didn't get a slice of the pie so u cant run them until we do
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Mr. Bucher,
Ya, we learned that the competitors were starting to use these pieces (That's why I put out the flier on the website stating how the rulebook applied to that particular piece).
One of the companies that makes them has properly requested that we approve them and we are researching them now to see if they are a reasonably priced, needed piece for use on the Legends Car.
We will post something on the website in the next few weeks.
Sincerely,
Scott Reinhardt
(INEX Executive Technical Director)
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>:( in other words were mad because we (inex) didn't get a slice of the pie so u cant run them until we do
??? We all know that people already use the adjustable spacers. The whole silly idea of having to make one off spacers is just a pain in the ass.
INEX will get their fair share of the pie (plus some).
Steve
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I am only starting my second year with a Legend Car so my instinct my be wrong, but I have a feeling that the "approved" spacers will be more expensive than the DRP spacers.
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I see the notice of them being illegal has been removed from the USLC website...
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Does that now make them legal?
robert
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Other than the expense to make several different size spacers, What's the difference?
Just askin'.
Steve
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DRP is working with INEX to get them on the approved part list.
I do not have a timeline, just waiting on INEX to decide if they will be legal or not
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Anybody heard anything?
The notice of them being illegal came down a week ago, wondering if a decision has been made by INEX
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Threaded adjustable bearing spacers will be available possibly this week, probably next week through any USLC dealer. This will be a legal adjustable bearing spacer.
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dennis what brand are they..? do you have any idea of cost?
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Threaded adjustable bearing spacers will be available possibly this week, probably next week through any USLC dealer. This will be a legal adjustable bearing spacer.
I guess that's why Scott has not responded to my last 2 emails. They will probably make all of them that have been on peoples cars for a year illegal, and now the only legal ones will have to be USLC stamped I'd bet.
Thanks for the update Dennis. Let us know when you hear more information
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I do not have all the info yet, I can tell you the ones we run will remain in our cars. I will pass the info on asap
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Hot off the email...
Randy - RPM
LEGENDS FRONT WHEEL BEARING SPACERS
Adjustable wheel bearing spacers have been formally requested & approved for use on Legend Cars as of 4/9/14.
US Legend Cars International will stock these parts on the shelf and they will be available through your local parts dealer.
Bearing spacers currently on the market (and ones competitors have already purchased) will also be permitted to be used on Legend Cars.
Sincerely,
Scott Reinhardt
(INEX Executive Technical Director)
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I received confirmation that wheel bearing spacers are now legal. The letter states that USLC will now carry these and are available through dealers. IT ALSO STATES THAT BEARING ALREADY PURCHASED AND INSTALLED THAT WERE PRODUCED BY OTHERS ARE LEGAL. SO there you go, USLC will sell them, you can also purchase other "brands" and be legal.
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Thanks for the info!
...and I just received an order of 24 of them for stock yesterday.
Ready for immediate delivery!...FREE SHIPPING IN THE USA!
http://www.vmsmotorsports.com/apps/webstore/products/show/4579611 (http://www.vmsmotorsports.com/apps/webstore/products/show/4579611)
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Nice! Will be ordering a set soon