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LEGENDS => Lubrication => Topic started by: RickyBobby on March 16, 2009, 04:13:38 pm

Title: Diff Fluid
Post by: RickyBobby on March 16, 2009, 04:13:38 pm
What grade of diff fluid does everyone use?  I am not looking for brand names.  I have that already figured our based on my new sponsour.  I ran 75W90 last year but was wondering why wouldn't I use 75W140.
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: VMS Motorsports on March 16, 2009, 04:41:49 pm
Depends on how often you change gears. If you're going to run just one gear all season, might as well go with the 75W140, but if you're going to keep changing gears, why bother?
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: justfreaky on March 16, 2009, 05:10:36 pm
http://www.legendsracer.com/index.php?topic=357.0
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: RickyBobby on March 18, 2009, 01:24:49 am
and how much do you put in?
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: VMS Motorsports on March 20, 2009, 10:17:04 am
I can't remember the quarts/liters. I was told by the rear end builder to adjust to maximum pinion angle (tilted forward) and fill until it starts coming out the fill hole. That way, you may overfill a little, but there's a breather for that anyway...if you fill it like this he guarantees the rear ends for a year, so I take it as gospel
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: RickyBobby on March 20, 2009, 11:44:33 am
Thank you.  I was putting in 1 quart as per a fellow racer but I think this may not have been enough.
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: JGRacing on March 20, 2009, 12:12:39 pm
I wrote it down somewhere when I filled mine.  I'll try to find the note.  Dumping fluid in the fill hole until it overflows is how I have done it with everything I have raced and have not had any issues. 
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: justfreaky on March 20, 2009, 02:03:08 pm
Filling the rear end until the lube runs out the hole is the way it is usually done. As for exact amount, I don't know with these rear ends.
You could likely run just a bit less without problems.

JMHO

Steve
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: VMS Motorsports on March 20, 2009, 02:10:47 pm
Key word "likely"

Road course, if you want to cheap out and save $11 bucks go ahead, fluid will slosh back and forth as you turn right and left...oval, a different story. I'd rather spill out a little than burn out a rear end.

Sorry Steve
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: justfreaky on March 20, 2009, 02:19:22 pm
Key word "likely"

Road course, if you want to cheap out and save $11 bucks go ahead, fluid will slosh back and forth as you turn right and left...oval, a different story. I'd rather spill out a little than burn out a rear end.

Sorry Steve

That is a good point Jim!
That is why I said "likely".
With the Mod, I always filled 'till full. Never had rear end issues.

Steve
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: JGRacing on March 20, 2009, 02:23:49 pm
Do they allow the seals on the inside of the axle tubes near the center section?  I do not think there is anything in the rulebook which means probably not, but there are a lot of areas not covered by the rulebook.  The seals are pretty cheap and keep the fluid out of the tubes so the gears cannot run dry in the turns.  
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: VMS Motorsports on March 20, 2009, 02:33:12 pm
The end all be all catch all paragraph...

"If this rulebook does not specifically say that you
can change/modify/add something, then you must
consider that the change/modification/addition is
illegal. Any questions about the legality of a change/
modification/addition not covered in this rulebook,
must be answered by INEX in writing and presented to
the tech inspector upon request. If you have a request for
a change/modification/addition, please contact INEX
before making the change/modification/addition."

 ;D
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: Openwheeler37 on April 24, 2009, 10:01:13 pm
I run full synthetic 75w90....but i also get it free from work so I may be a little bias
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: thunder938 on April 27, 2009, 09:30:46 am
Shockproof Lightweight Gear Oil, 75W80, Synthetic...
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: apm motorsports on April 27, 2009, 07:48:32 pm
just  had my gear rebuilt . got hard to turn. The gear guy told me to use redline heavy. put in  1- 1/2 quarts if it does not blow out of over flow add 1/2 more.  I was using 75-90  with only 1 quart in it. Was told not enough.  not racing gears the thicker oil will be better for meshing.   the  heavy is rated 75-245  but acts as 75 -90. Have not raced yet so  do not know about how much should go in gear.
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: VMS Motorsports on April 28, 2009, 10:02:28 am
Filled mine up last night. put maximum pinion angle in it and got 3 quarts in there....I'd rather overfill, as stated before, keeps the pinion bearing lubed better..Amsoil 75-140 of course  ;)
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: thunder938 on April 28, 2009, 12:07:15 pm
3 q!!! wow 600 advises with the pick of a new car something like 1.1 qt.  I run just a bit more about 1.5 qts and have never had a problem.  With a locked rear there is alot less heat in the diff.  I have to change the gears every week for diff. tracks and I will run the same gear oil all year and have had no problems.

Red Line Shockproof Lightweight Gear Oil, 75W80, Synthetic...

My local  dealer also runs this amount and has had no prolbems in years and he runs 3 cars out of his shop.  We race on paved ovals..
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: VMS Motorsports on April 28, 2009, 06:21:00 pm
Theres no such thing as overfilling, and as stated earlier, if you put the max pinion angle in it and fill it to overflowing, the diff builder we use will guarantee it for a year...no warranty from 600 or its dealer network, so I'll go with recommendations from the guy who guarantees his work over the guy who wants to sell me more parts any day.. I dont switch rear ends at all during the season, dirt oval.
Title: Re: Diff Fluid
Post by: Racinjj on April 28, 2009, 07:36:39 pm
3 quarts seems a bit much, I am guessing that you filled some of the axle tubes.  It wont be an issue unless its starts coming out the breather.
I dont know how you can burn these gears up unless you ran it low on oil, not much power and not much moving in there.  I used the same 75w-90 synthetic all season last year and plan to put fresh stuff in this year and use it all season.  I will be changing gears after every race this year and will reuse the oil, I did the same in my late model and didnt have any issues.