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LEGENDS => Setup and Handling => Topic started by: Winterracing on April 03, 2011, 06:19:46 pm
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I wasn't 100% sure where to measure the ride heights from and just wanted to know the right place to measure them.
Thanks,
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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As far as conforming to the rulebook, measure from the bottom of the chassis as close to the wheel as possible in the rear, and at the furthermost point on the chassis before the kickup in the front
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As far as conforming to the rulebook, measure from the bottom of the chassis as close to the wheel as possible in the rear, and at the furthermost point on the chassis before the kickup in the front
Where is the kickup? is that where the shocks are attached? also does anyone have any info on ride heights and what they do?
Thanks,
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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The kick ups are at the base of the fire wall where the frame "Kicks Up" from the lower floor area to the front clip.
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The kick ups are at the base of the fire wall where the frame "Kicks Up" from the lower floor area to the front clip.
Alright thanks, I'm still having trouble with these i took about 6 rounds out of the left front and only lost about a 1/4 inch of ride height
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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What are your current ride heights, and what are you trying to achieve?
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LF
4 1/2
LR
4 5/8
RF
4 1/2
RR
4 1/4
I'm trying to get
LF
4
LR
4 1/4
RF
4 1/4
RR
4
Like i said i've already cranked on the left front 6 turns and only gotten it down a 1/4 inch and i don't even want to see what my scaling numbers are at
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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are going to run asphalt or dirt?
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are going to run asphalt or dirt?
I'll be racing asphalt, 1/4 mile mostly
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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LF
4 1/2
LR
4 5/8
RF
4 1/2
RR
4 1/4
I'm trying to get
LF
4
LR
4 1/4
RF
4 1/4
RR
4
Like i said i've already cranked on the left front 6 turns and only gotten it down a 1/4 inch and i don't even want to see what my scaling numbers are at
Dan
www.winterracing.net
Sorry after looking more at it i should try to get
LF
3.75
LR
4 1/4
RF
4
RR
4 1/4
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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Do you have the coil overs on the 1st or second position on the shock?
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Do you have the coil overs on the 1st or second position on the shock?
What are the 2 positions on the shock?
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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The shock body has 2 grooves in it. The coil over adjuster is held in position by a "C" clip in one of the grooves.
You may have the "C" clip in the lower groove (closer to the rod end of the shock). That will cause your problem.
If you can see more than an inch or so of the shock body on the top of the body side of the shock, that's your issue
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The shock body has 2 grooves in it. The coil over adjuster is held in position by a "C" clip in one of the grooves.
You may have the "C" clip in the lower groove (closer to the rod end of the shock). That will cause your problem.
If you can see more than an inch or so of the shock body on the top of the body side of the shock, that's your issue
I took a look and that wasn't the problem. I'm at about 4 inches now and theres only about 1 1/2 inches of clearance between the bottom of the shock body and the top of the bottom of the shock. Also looking at the left front the rods are beginning to angle up is this normal? Also, i only have about 3/4 inch left of screw to screw it down. Does everyone run them about at the lowest point?
Thanks,
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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Dan,
Can you post a pic or 2 of one of your shocks? Worst case would be best.
Also, what spring rates are you running?
I'm not sure why you are having so much trouble getting your ride heights in the ball park.
Steve
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Well after ALOT of work i got the ride heights in the right ball park area. I have hardly any room left on the left front to turn down and also the shock has very little room to compress. Thanks for everyones help i've learned alot these last days. I also squared the rear end today and checked the wheel base. I've still got alot of work to do with the wheel base. Just making sure i do it right, to adjust wheel base you adjust the hiems on the lower control arm right?
Thanks,
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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Post some pictures. Something is not right
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I'm thinking that the snap ring is not in the lower position. I have to move mine on the right rear to get more height and it sounds like his are like that. You can remove the threaded spring adjuster and move it up or down. It pulls off and (it is hard to pull off) and you move the C-clamp. Just something to check.
Scott
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I already told him that, he says that is not the case..NEED PICTURES if you want help
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Heres one
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Heres the other, I have the ride heights now set at what i need but there isn't much left of the left front spring as you can see
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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Might be a stupid question, are you running 8" or 10" springs?
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10" springs
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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Sorry after looking more at it i should try to get
LF RF
3.75 4
LR RR
4 1/4 4 1/4
Dan
www.winterracing.net
Dan,
Those numbers are not obtainable unless the chassis is bent. If the LF is lower than the RF, the the RR has to be higher than the LR.
It is more important at this point that you pick the lowest point of the car, the LF and get a setting of 3.75". From there you will need to adjust the other corners until you come up with something in your ball park. Remember, since you are measuring behind the pivot point of the front wheel you can raise or lower that height by the rear spring(s) as well. So, your lack of travel might be because you are lowering the front but the rear is actually too high.
From the point you get your ride height numbers close and make sure you are not under minimum height, you need to adjust accordingly to obtain the corner and cross weights you are looking to acheive. Ride height is really just a minimum standard and a starting point to get the car scaled corectly; every car is different.
Also, make sure the left lower control is a left one. The tubing the shock mounts to must go under the tubing the ball joint screws into. If it doesn't it is a right and that is your lack of travel issue.
Randy - RPM
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Thanks everyone for the help. Me and my dad worked all day on the car and got it set up. Its amazing to me how hard it is to get the wheelbase right. One degree of caster could make the wheel base to long when taking one out makes it legal. Its amazing.
Thank you again, tomorrow we plan to scale the car and see where its at.
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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Dan,
Thanks for posting the pics! Glad that dad jumped in to help! I hope that everything works out for you. Let us know how everything works out for you.
Steve
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I had the same problem with my ride heights. Double check and make sure you have the C clip on the bottom groove which is about a 1/2 in from bottom. it lowers it about 2in
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Where are you located?
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Dennis i've been meaning to ask you a quesiton. I square my rear end the way you had said with a bar across the front and then measure back. Now my problem is what do you measure back to? I've been just using the rim but i know thats not the most accurate way to do it.
Thanks,
Dan
www.winterracing.net
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What I generally do is use the rim, i use the wheel base gauge because the tab sticks out and gives you an attachment point. If you measure, then roll the car so the wheel turns 180 degrees and measure again it will help with identifying a bent wheel or axle. i set up alot of cars so i use Lasers, the method you are talking about is just as good. I keep a set of wheels with tires that i know are straight, this eliminates the wheel issue, but i still roll the 180 to check the axles, this is so that I can make sure my squaring numbers are good. This method is really simple and ANYONE can do it, its very accurate and takes little investment if any to do it. You can always call me and I will be happy to help.
Dennis Knox
Buckeye Legends
330-310-9212