LegendsRacer - Legends & Bandolero Racing Forum
LEGENDS => Brakes => Topic started by: Racingtrader.ca on January 15, 2014, 09:34:43 pm
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Will we see these anytime soon. I'm looking at ordering a set for the front this week but if they are close to a rear kit I'll wait and get both at the same time.
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I was told at 600 they are comming soon, but a new rule will say if you run the new fronts you have to run the new backs too
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Part of what Vern is telling you is because they came out with the Willwood and most of the BIG teams in NC are still on the old brakes. They are still spending $1000+ 0n front brakes and USLC is not selling the Willwoods like they thought. So the thought is, if we offer back disc and make you run the front we can sell them. If all else fails then they will just make it a rule to run the the Willwoods. The last part is my opinion.
PS there was some rumor of quick changes also but it is just an idea that they are thinking about for down the road
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OK guys. Per GE Chapman today. The Wilwood rears will most likely NOT be available in 2014, if they are offered it will be very late in the year. The rule will not be FORCE you to buy all 4 at once (fronts and rear). You will not be able to mix or match the fronts or mix and match the rears. You will have to run the same on each of the front and the same on each of the rears.
Quick change will be far away and may never happen. It has been discussed for years, then USLC had there own center sections and ends produced.
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That is what I said Dennis but just from a different angle. If they offer rear disc then you would have better brakes than the guys that chose to stay with the old brakes. Thus making you (not forcing) buy the new brakes. It is kind of like you can still run the 1200 but once they put the 165lbs PSI rule on them it was all but the end for them (except for dirt). You still run them but it is hard to keep up. Again my opinion. ::)
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I am going to guess that that IF and When the rear discs become available for the Legends Cars; It will be like the front Wilwood brake system; Not maditory (for now, at least).
Drum brakes are antiquated and just don't supply the stopping power that discs offer. My opinion; The lighter weight of the calipers and advantage in stopping power... Big Plus!
Hawk Machine makes the brackets necessary for mounting the Wilwood brake calipers.
Steve
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Quick change will be far away and may never happen. It has been discussed for years, then USLC had there own center sections and ends produced.
Is the cost the reason that it may never happen? And what happened when they had theirs made?
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The Dwarf Car bunch have been using these same Wilwood brakes on all 4 for years. Cost is not really bad.
Steve
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Quick change will be far away and may never happen. It has been discussed for years, then USLC had there own center sections and ends produced.
Is the cost the reason that it may never happen? And what happened when they had theirs made?
They still have them. Buy a new rear end from USLC and it has INEX stamped into it.
Wondering why they have started discontinuing gear ratios if a switch isn't coming though
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They are discontinuing some ratios, because they don't sell enough of them. When they buy gear sets, they need to buy them in lots of 200 sets. even if they are getting them for $150/set, $30K is a lot of cash to have sitting on the shelf collecting dust. How many tracks do you know of that run a 4.30 or even a 4.10? Not many. And the ones that do, you can likely use another gear and be VERY close to the same ratio.
Quick change will not happen anytime soon. They are simply to expensive.
Rear disc will happen, and likely it will happen in 2015. It will not be mandatory, although I expect most will change sooner rather than later, as the rear discs will be a big improvement over the drums.
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Wait a minute, two of the 4 tracks we run every rear use the 4.10
Are you telling me that the 4.10 is going to be discontinued?
How do people find these things out?
Gerad
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Yes, 4.30 is gone, and 4.10 is the next to go, if it hasn't stopped already .
It's really a shame that USLC bought the exclusive rights to these gear sets, then discontinue them.
A lot of drifters and pony stock guys use the 4.30, and so do I and some of my customers.
If they don't want to carry them anymore, fine, but then need to open the discontinued ratio's back up for the public to purchase.
Call Richmond and they will tell you that you have to buy it from USLC only, they have the exclusive rights to all the Toyota 6.7's, but USLC wont sell them to you.
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It's 2015 - Any update on When and IF Rear Disc?
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Possibly late in the year, they have a car on display with them.
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Thanks Dennis.
Do you know if they appear to be similar to the rear disc on the Thunder Roadster?
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yes they do.
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Anybody have rough idea as to what pricing will be for complete Wilwood rear brake package for Legend cars?
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whats with the door bar cross bracing? Is that something new, or just there for support when the build the chassis?
Dan
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whats with the door bar cross bracing? Is that something new, or just there for support when the build the chassis?
Dan
I am for sure these were road course cars inex was building for over seas. But i am assuming this is what the rear disc setup is going to look like as well.
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I am not so sure that would be a Euro Road Course car. I thought the Euro cars have rear mufflers.
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Had anyone heard a date yet?
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anyone????
Robert
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As Dennis posted in post #13 on April 1,2015:
"Possibly late in the year, they have a car on display with them."
I am sure he will keep us posted on any new developements.
Steve
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If they come out with rear disk brakes, would we be able to use the brakeman front package on the rear?
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I've heard from the guys at US Legends to not expect them anytime soon....hate to be the barer of bad news
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So... looking around and can not find a good supplier for Wilwood kit... any pointers?
Thanks,
Jamie