LegendsRacer - Legends & Bandolero Racing Forum

LEGENDS => Setup and Handling => Topic started by: fcassidy on February 05, 2008, 02:41:03 am

Title: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: fcassidy on February 05, 2008, 02:41:03 am
Hi,

I have just bought an older Legend and the first thing I need to do is take some play out of the steering.  Never having had one of these cars before, is there generally some 'play' from the steering wheel down as far as the steering rack? 

I'm finding it is loose where the steering wheel attaches to the shaft, then there is movement in the universal joints and finally there appears to be unwanted left/right movement in the rack itself.

Any other race car I've owned/driven never had any unwanted movement - I consider it a little dangerous.  Just want to find out if you guys tolerate a certain amount of play or unwanted movement between the steering wheel and the front wheels - is it just part of what comes with these cars?

A ny info would be great.

Thanks
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: justfreaky on February 05, 2008, 03:54:10 am
Frank,
 Sounds like a new steering wheel disconnect is in order.
Possible steering rack rebuild also.
Check the steering joints first, and replace a necessary.
 As I have not yet got my steering system completed, I can't say what is "normal".
I agree with you on unwanted movement. Tighten it up as best you can,

Steve
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: fastmantom on February 05, 2008, 11:03:58 am
If I remember right, I think INEX sells a rebuild kit for the rack. 

I would go ahead and replace the steering shaft.  This will also present an opportunity to put your steering wheel in the perfect position. 

Is the seat comfortable when you sit in it?  It should be comfortable enough to where you nearly fall asleep sitting there.  You're entire upper leg, down to your knee should be supported in some way by the seat. 
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: JGRacing on February 05, 2008, 11:08:37 am
If you have the hex type steering release, going to a splined release will take out some of the play in that part of the system.   
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: fcassidy on February 05, 2008, 10:07:50 pm
This is all good info - especially if there is a rebuild kit available for the rack.   I think I'll simply replace anything which looks or feels suspect, I absolutely hate having anything on a car which feels loose.

Thanks guys - the help is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: Tom Cole on February 10, 2008, 03:22:31 pm
You want to get rid of as much play as possible.
The rack body has a bronze sleeve in it that can be easily replaced and you can buy just the sleeve.  I got mine from Mike Patrick at Little Race Cars in Virginia.
Be sure to replace any heim joints and ball joints that have any play in them too.  Every little bit of slop can add up to slower lap times.
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: 6th Geer on February 22, 2008, 05:09:38 pm
as this will be my 4th season in  legend car. there will always be a little play in your legend steering.
I have not drove one yet without a little play. some more then others.

The old upper 1/3 steering  used a bolt in area that is now welded. I noticed a huge difference in these.

Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: qweedqwag on February 23, 2008, 07:48:42 pm
I agree I have not driven a Legends that did not have a little play, the splined steering head helps a ton and adding grease to the rack also helps, the new rack has an adjuster on top the helps tighten up the steering, the older on need the bushing replced if it had to much slop, keep them lubed up and this will not happen so fast.

Mike.
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: JGRacing on February 24, 2008, 10:19:31 am
How do I grease the stearing rack?  Do I need to open it up, or is there a fitting somewhere?
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: qweedqwag on February 25, 2008, 09:59:28 pm
JG,

On the older rack the the grease nipple is on the top of the rack, on the newer one it's on the lower front 4-5 good pumps will help out a little, it will also help it move more freely.

Mike.
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: JGRacing on February 26, 2008, 09:54:33 am
Thanks.  I'll take a look tonight.
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: blueskythinking on January 23, 2009, 03:58:25 am
going slightly off subject, i have recently renewed the standard bush on my steering rack and had one put in the larger daimeter end of the rack next to the pinion. Problem is now when i tighten up the plate with the grease nipple on the whole thing locks up. Is there a reason why there is not a bush fitted as standard to the pinion end of the rack? any help would be appreciated!!
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: racerrad8 on January 23, 2009, 01:42:01 pm
You cannot use a bushing in the pinion side of the rack body. That end must "float" thus the reason for the adjustable shims to control the tooth contact between the rack and pinion. You need to remove that bushing.

Randy - RPM
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: tch38 on January 25, 2009, 10:46:36 pm
Based on the posts I think my rack is in good shape. Thanks all
Title: Re: Play in steering - how much is acceptable, if any?
Post by: blueskythinking on January 28, 2009, 12:13:49 pm
thanks for clearing that up racerrad!!