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LEGENDS => Setup and Handling => Topic started by: JGRacing on February 16, 2009, 11:11:27 am

Title: Tire bead sealer
Post by: JGRacing on February 16, 2009, 11:11:27 am
I b0ught some tire bead sealer at Napa to take care of the little leaks in the tire bead from hand mounting them.  The label has almost no useful information.  What is the best was to use this stuff?  Paint it on the wheel bead or tire bead?  Do I pop the bead on the rim then let the air out to take pressure off of it while it dries?  Are there any temperature minimums?   
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: justfreaky on February 16, 2009, 11:55:48 am
John,

I would think that you let the air out of the tire; Pop the beads; and apply (paint on) the sealer to both the wheel and the tire bead; Let it tack up and re-air the tire.
Room temp should probably be at least 50*. (wild guess)
I've never used the stuff, so not 100% on that.

Steve
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: VMS Motorsports on February 16, 2009, 05:28:35 pm
Yup....just plan on cleaning alot of crap off your wheels every time you need to replace the tires...its really just a type of caulk, if you will, to seal. I'd choose to just check my tire pressures every time i go out, cleaner and less labor intensive in the long run
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: JGRacing on February 16, 2009, 07:01:05 pm
I really chewed up the edge of the couple of the tires.  These radials don't mount up as easily as the old Hoosier bias ply tires did on the modified.  Maybe I will just use it on the ones that leak the most.  Now if I could just get a reasonable temperature in my garage.   :) 
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: VMS Motorsports on February 17, 2009, 09:20:24 am
Move to Canada!
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: JGRacing on February 17, 2009, 10:58:47 am
Then you have to deal with polar bear attacks and all of that stuff.  ;)
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: RickyBobby on February 17, 2009, 03:07:02 pm
Polar bears, you have to live in an Igloo, take the dog sled to work....but hey we have heated garages :-)

I know Steve OFF TOPIC :-). 
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: JGRacing on February 17, 2009, 03:20:36 pm
I assumed everyone drove snow mobiles to work from their igloos, not dog sleds.  That is just crazy talk. ;D 
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: MegaMang on February 17, 2009, 04:47:30 pm
Those of us with more money use snow machines to drive our dogs around.  They get really pampered.
 ;D

Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: VMS Motorsports on February 18, 2009, 11:30:43 am
I can just see my 16 pound miniature schnauzer pulling me on a sled!!! Wonder how long before Steve throws up the off topic smiley face?
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: justfreaky on February 18, 2009, 11:39:35 pm
Off Topic
 ;D
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: justfreaky on February 19, 2009, 02:46:17 am
If ya gotta go by sled...

Do it right!
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: JGRacing on February 19, 2009, 11:21:30 am
On something like that tire bead sealer would not be needed.  Does that bring this back around to on topic again?   ;)
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: justfreaky on February 19, 2009, 02:41:39 pm
LOL!
It's all about the traction!!!  ;)
I think that if you are tearing up the beads on your tires, that you need to find a better way to mount them.
I have heard everything from Windex window cleaner to dish soap used as a lubricant to mount tires.
I always had my local tire shop mount them for me... Put their name on the car somewhere, tell all your friends what nice people they are to deal with...
Cost = $0.00
Sponsorship and new friends = Priceless!
 ;)

Just my .02 worth

Steve
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: JGRacing on February 19, 2009, 03:24:07 pm
Are you saying a big hammer and a tire iron might not be ideal for mounting dry radial tires?   ;)

The tire shops around me are all chain places and usually want some some stupid amount of money to mount tires (even without a balance).  With how few tires I will hopefully be going through, hand mounting a tire here and there should not be a big deal.  I just need to be more carefull with the bead.  Was trying to avoid soapy water or anything that might increase the humidity in the tires, but will probably need to start using something.  I guess Windex should evaporate pretty quickly if I let the tire sit after getting it on the wheel, before I seat the bead.       
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: justfreaky on February 19, 2009, 03:34:05 pm
You need to use some form of lubricant... Otherwise it does tend to rip up the bead on the tire.
Use just what you need to get the tire on without tearing up the bead. Keep a spray bottle handy.
 Put in as dry, moisture free, air that you can.
Most of the races are not so long that you need to worry too much...
But an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. The more predictable your tire growth is during a race will help you decide what is best for your set up.

Steve
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: VMS Motorsports on February 19, 2009, 05:12:40 pm
I always use Windex...evaporates very fast, and is slippery enough
Title: Update Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: JGRacing on March 17, 2009, 01:49:37 pm
Just an update on the bead sealer.  I put it on the beads of the tires that were leaking over the weekend, re-seated them, and they all still have air today.  It definitely fixed the leaks caused by my less than gentle mounting of the tires.   I'll give Windex a try on the next tires.   
Title: Re: Tire bead sealer
Post by: Openwheeler37 on April 24, 2009, 09:46:44 pm
We use anaimal fat at the car dealership I work at. Makes mounting 26" tires a breeze! Bead sealer is very easy to use. Just dismount your tire, cleaned the rim and tire bead area, apply a good amount to the rim bead and remount the tire. Bead sealer is a great tool to also help keep the right rear tire on the rim while running such low air pressure. If you do use bead sealer, try not to use any sort of  lubrication while mounting the tire. It may react with the bead sealer and render it useless.