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LEGENDS => Setup and Handling => Topic started by: cryer on June 06, 2010, 12:00:08 am

Title: cross
Post by: cryer on June 06, 2010, 12:00:08 am
what cross do yo guys run?
thanks
Title: Re: cross
Post by: justfreaky on June 06, 2010, 12:14:01 am
You might want to check out this old thread:
http://www.legendsracer.com/index.php?topic=212.0

Steve
Title: Re: cross
Post by: cryer on June 06, 2010, 08:52:19 pm
thx. I looked didnot find anything LOL....
thanks again
Title: Re: cross
Post by: justfreaky on June 06, 2010, 09:13:24 pm
Try buying the "Dwarf Car Technology" book from Jim.
There is no set in stone answer. Driver preference, track and conditions, etc...

Steve
Title: Re: cross
Post by: IraceLegends77 on June 07, 2010, 06:42:48 am
what are you running? Asphalt or dirt? It makes a differance and so does the size and banking of the track your running. Send me a PM and I will help as much as I can.

Scott
Title: Re: cross
Post by: Bigmil on June 07, 2010, 09:18:23 am
Along these same lines.

For asphalt I was wondering what changes you want for high banked versus flat track.
i.e. less cross for higher banked?

Thanks,
Gerad
Title: Re: cross
Post by: cryer on June 07, 2010, 09:37:53 am
asphalt track is pretty flat. I think I have to much cross in the car. I am going to move it to 51% not sure were its at now.
Title: Re: cross
Post by: justfreaky on June 07, 2010, 10:38:55 am
51% should be ok  for a  paved track that is flat to medium banked.

To calculate cross weight, add together the right front and left rear corner weights, then divide by total vehicle weight.

Steve
Title: Re: cross
Post by: IraceLegends77 on June 07, 2010, 08:57:42 pm
51% should be pushing. It might even be pushing so bad that you think it is loose off (push-loose). I would bring the cross down to the 48 to 50 range but as with all dsclaimers this is just a small part of the set-up story.

Scott
Title: Re: cross
Post by: thunder938 on June 07, 2010, 10:06:49 pm
48 to 50 should be a good starting point.  The less cross you run the more free the car is and free is fast IF you can drive it.
Title: Re: cross
Post by: cryer on June 07, 2010, 11:23:55 pm
car is at 53.8 cross. in it now. car does push in corner ,but I got the car from a guy who ran a goofy setup. he had the left rear 1/2 longer then the right rear. we always had to run heaver left front spring then right front. the car is fast though. Tonight I centerd the rear up ,and went to a basic setup with springs
lf 250 rf 275 lr 175 rr 200. 0 caster lf 3 right front 2.5 camber left 5.0 right.
think i should take cross out of the car? I can throw the car back up on the scales ,but how far do you think I have to run the springs up and down?
thanks
Title: Re: cross
Post by: cryer on June 09, 2010, 08:40:55 pm
car is at 50.0 now.  ;D found another problem while working on the car. The rack is loose somtihng on the inside. can this be rebuilt or tightend up???
then my brand new master that is one race ould is leaking at the rubber.. I have had nothing but brake problems with this car.
Title: Re: cross
Post by: VMS Motorsports on June 09, 2010, 09:47:30 pm
You have to be careful with the masters to get the pedal plunger going in perfectly straight or they will do that. I have them in stock if you need one quick.
You can get a rebuild kit from Randy (RPM), or for a short term fix, pump it full of grease, will be good for a night
Title: Re: cross
Post by: cryer on June 09, 2010, 10:04:34 pm
sorry to sound dumb but were do you pump it full of grease at?
Title: Re: cross
Post by: VMS Motorsports on June 09, 2010, 10:36:16 pm
It should have a grease zirc on it
Title: Re: cross
Post by: cryer on June 09, 2010, 10:40:43 pm
I just fig. it out you were talking about the rack. LOL thinking how do you fill the master full of grease LOL ....
thanks
Title: Re: cross
Post by: IraceLegends77 on June 10, 2010, 06:15:24 am
If  it is only loose on one end, just pull the rubber boot off and look iside for a allen set screw. These come loose sometimes and you just need to tighten back up. If both ends are loose than you might need a rebuild kit. Just trying to save you some time and money.

Scott
Title: Re: cross
Post by: cryer on June 10, 2010, 06:27:29 am
thx i will try that tonight