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Title: Used Car value
Post by: 1934sedan on December 10, 2012, 09:27:51 pm
Hello guys can tell me what this  used car is worth?  The car has been sitting for the past few years

It  is a 1934 Ford sedan:

New chassis in 2007 raced approx 10 races
Sealed Motor, with top end oiler, 3 pass oil cooler with fan, also new in 2007, approx 8 races on it
In car lap timer, Memory Tach, oil temp, oil pressure
 Various Spare parts , 12 chrome trap wheels, body parts, spare gear set, Longacre scale setup with drive on pads, setup tools, castor/camber gauge. wheel base gauge, bumpsteer gauge, tire temp gauge, tire gauge, all these are Longacre.
Has a decent Leaf racing suit, gloves and shoes.


Thanks.
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: Hyerflyer2 on December 10, 2012, 09:38:43 pm
I would possibly be interested in the drive up scale ramps
If interested in selling email me at (hyerflyer2@yahoo.com)
Rob H
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: Legends57x on December 10, 2012, 10:01:08 pm
Just my opinion, based on it sitting for a few years...$7000 car only, $8000-8500 with all spare parts.   Again, just my best judgement based on many Legends cars I've seen for sale over the last few years.
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: VMS Motorsports on December 10, 2012, 10:19:00 pm
I think thats high Mark.
Sitting for 5 years, who knows the condition.
Engine could be illegal, as it was built before they were all brought in-house.
For sale vs sold is a big difference, theres been alot of stuff for sale for a long time, but the market has decreased quite a bit in the last couple years, as with all non-essential purchases.
I'd say $5k, $6500 w/ all spares/scales.
I'll put my new engine in my car and completely re-do the body if they start selling for $7000 again
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: 1934sedan on December 10, 2012, 10:57:27 pm
Well if I was to purchase  what it came with, full retail is approx 5 grand in extras plus parts
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: 1934sedan on December 10, 2012, 11:01:53 pm
I also forgot to mention it has a double sheer rear end which is new
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: 1934sedan on December 10, 2012, 11:03:14 pm
Do you think 9000 is a fair deal?
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: justfreaky on December 10, 2012, 11:13:04 pm
Do you think 9000 is a fair deal?

I would make a lot lower offer. Worst they can say is no.
The suit, gloves and shoes are not of much use unless they fit you.
Consider what upgrades you will need to make also.

Steve
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: amp racing on December 11, 2012, 12:58:22 am
i'm trying to sell a sedan, completely gone over new rear , straight car with new clip.. can not get 4500 roller and 7000 with new open motor market is not there..
joe
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: knoxracing on December 11, 2012, 08:51:17 am
Oh hell no, $9000.00, The car has sat for atleast 5 years. I would be cautious of the motor for sure, sits for 5 years, cranks it to 10,o000 rpm and ----- who knows. The brake system is probably junk, the belts are junk, it need roll bar padding, fuel line, etc.  Does he have a vin and title in hand?  I agree depending on the condition of the car $6000.oo- $7000.00  TOTAL! Alot of depends on these parts, drive on scale system, what type? Are the gears spooled or welded? Full retail may have BEEN 5K, this stuff has sat for 5 years.
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: 1934sedan on December 11, 2012, 08:59:12 am
The car is in good shape, the scale system is a longacre.  The gears are welded.
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: VMS Motorsports on December 11, 2012, 10:07:46 am
Are you looking for advice, or trying to justify a price you already paid?
You have gotten alot of responses here, and they are all saying pretty much the same thing. If you already bought it, congratulations, and enjoy your new car, nothing you can do to change it, so have fun and race it.
If you haven't, I personally don't think its worth nearly the price listed, but hey, if prices start trending upward, we would all be happy.
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: knoxracing on December 11, 2012, 11:11:10 am
I agree jim, if you bought it everything will be fine. If you need help with the ca let me know, I would be happy to help you sort it out!
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: 1934sedan on December 11, 2012, 06:50:29 pm
Thanks Dennis
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: 1934sedan on December 11, 2012, 07:21:08 pm
Yes I did purchase the car
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: VMS Motorsports on December 11, 2012, 08:36:06 pm
Congratulations, welcome to Legends.
Where are you going to race?
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: justfreaky on December 11, 2012, 09:21:39 pm
Congratulations Chris!
Hope you will post some pics for us when she ready to race.

Chris lives in Canada and, according to his messages, will be racing at Montana Raceway Park just north of Kalispell, Montana.
They have a 1/4 mile oval inside, 3/8 miles outside, Asphalt track there.

Best Of Luck in 2013!

Steve
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: 1934sedan on December 11, 2012, 10:26:47 pm
Yes I will wen I have the car ready to go.

Thanks.
Guys
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: justfreaky on December 11, 2012, 11:37:01 pm
I'll have to come up and watch you race.

Steve
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: NJRacer510 on December 21, 2012, 07:39:17 am
If you could get a good car for $9,000 thats a steal. I know someone who just sold all three of their cars, best of the best. They got $18,000 each for two cars and $15,000 for the other car. After you build a car from the ground up you realize how much you have into a good car. We have three cars and if I were to ever sell them I would be between the $12,000 and $15,000 area depending on how many races on engines.

If you take care of your car and put the time a lot of time into take a second to think about it, you can buy a brand new car from USLC for around $15,000-16,000? After you buy that car you probably put another $5-6,000 into it with putting better parts on the car. I understand times are tough but there is nothing cheap about Legends Cars anymore.

Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: knoxracing on December 21, 2012, 09:00:46 am
Those cars brought that money was based on who drove them, National championship cars, yes they were quality cars.  As a dealer I have to watch what sells and what it is bringing and why.  I agree a TOP quality over the edge car will cost $22K to HAVE built. I sold a car that beat that championship car and ran door to door at e few events with him for 10K.  Todd this statement is not directed to you, its a statement for those that do not know this--- Typically when a car leaves a set up shops team, the team owner has a signed contract that allows him to REMOVE any specialty components INCLUDING the set-up. I am talking about house cars, not cars that a racer brings to be set up and takes  home, I am talking cars that are stabled and maintained by a shop. I have had several cars brought to me that were purchased from teams as HOUSE CARS, the set up was changed, lead was removed, along with some other things.  Selling a used Legend car for 12K to 15K is not easy in TODAYS MARKET and is not typical.  Four years ago teams were building 22K cars right and left, today they are doing one here and there, so resale is off.
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: NJRacer510 on December 21, 2012, 09:37:20 am
I just think people are selling cars to cheap. But then again it depends on the parts you have in the cars as well, a car with Napa brake parts compared to a car with complete Brake Man parts of equivalent racing brakes.A car with a stock steering column compared to a car with an RPM ProComp Column with a Sweet Mfg disconnect.

I know someone who just purchased a brand new car from 860MotorSports for $25k which has labor involved but that's why Legends cars are different now. In order to compete up front at a national level the price is a lot more. All I am saying if you were to add up everything from the ground up, $9,000 for a good car is a steal.

Big Teams/House Cars vs. Self is a big argument of late. Many people that race around us always make comments and such because we choose to be involved with a big team. By no means does this make us superior in any way but its something I choose to do.
Title: Re: Used Car value
Post by: knoxracing on December 21, 2012, 10:10:29 am
I agree Todd. I have been fortunate to have made alot of friends and have helped alot the big teams with parts sales and it has helped me to compete with these teams.  The advantage the teams have is they run multiple cars 40 races a year plus. They can ginny pig daily, lol.