new to legends think I lost a engine! help please

[kbach racing]

I have researched this forum and found lots of great info. Thanks to all that share. This weekend my sealed 1250 was pumping oil it has maybe 15 races and usually runs strong. After practice car was covered in oil we had changed oil so we verified oil level was correct. Seemed a bit high compared to what I was told which was fill to line like a bike. We drained off alitte tell oil was about half way in view window and it still pumped oil with oil light on from end of straight through the turn. Then I was told to fill oil car at idle tell oil is 1/3 visible . I added a full court which I know overfilled it but oil was never visible in window with car at idle when car was shut off window was completly full window. I have tried multiple different oil levels and oil is never visible in window with the engine at idle. When I started car this evening it seems to have a loud tick or knock. Any info greatly appreciated. Plugs look good no oil in exhaust. Was thinking rings lined up or valves way to tight or time for the blitz

[knoxracing]

From what I am reading you have an issue. I am not sure why you are not seeing oil in the window with the car running. Playing with the oil level and the light being on in the straight away has probably led to your knock. I would not race this motor unless it is expendable to you. I think the risk of destroying it is high at this point.

[amp racing]

dennis  I am thinking the oil is not returning to the oil pan fast enough..its being pumped out under pressure but not returning resulting in oil starvation... hose or cooler pluged? some thing not right.

joe

[knoxracing]

Joe, anything is possible. I would be afraid at this point damage has been done, if there is a circulation issue it would need to be corrected.  I would think that if the oil is leaving it has to be moving through the system. More info on the type of system would help also, texas style, remote style, three port, etc.

[justfreaky]

Whatever the issue, I think some damage has already been done. (When I started car this evening it seems to have a loud tick or knock.)
Never a good sign! Keep us posted.

Steve

[VMS Motorsports]

Whatever the issue, I think some damage has already been done. (When I started car this evening it seems to have a loud tick or knock.)
Never a good sign! Keep us posted.

Steve

True, but if it is indeed a plumbing issue, best to figure it out before the new/repaired engine gets put back in

[kbach racing]

It has large remote filter in front of left front tire and oil cooler with electronic fan. Breather goes from stock breather hole to catch can and has a return to oil fill cap. Not super familiar with these systems. The program started after an oil change is it possible that it was overfilled and created a siphon threw breather? Not sure What info will help so... would pics of oil system? Haven't started car since the bad noise. Could enough blow by cause that much crank case pressure to allow oil to not return to the pan?

[kbach racing]

What drives oil pump is there a spring and check ball that could be stuck like a chevy type? I have never seen inside these engines but the seals about to get cut. Lol

[amp racing]

oil pump gear driven.. check valves in oil pan,,,,
joe

[kbach racing]

No obvious blockage in any oillines cooler or filters.  Any other ideas why oil would not be retuning to bottom end?

[amp racing]

what oil system do you have?

[kbach racing]

Not really sure what system.  I will do some research and post what oil system type. I can't figure out how to post pictures.

[knoxracing]

If you call me we can talk about your complete oil problem. I still believe at this point by the noise you are hearing the engine is damaged. Call me and we will figure out what you have and why you have this issue.

[Earnst85]

When you say "after practice the car was covered with oil..."

What was the reason it was covered in oil? Where were you leaking from? Did you run it after practice, or was the "noisy" restart the first time after?

[Grape Competition Develop]

mount a motorcycle engine sideways in a car and turn left, the oil ends up in the clutch and spit out the breather.....the faster you go the worse it is.  Put a mechanical oil pressure gauge on it while you are at it if you wanna see some super duper engineering.  these cars have 0 oil pressure when you turn the steering wheel no matter what oil system you were sold, unless the oil pickup in the pan has been re-designed.