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Offline justfreaky

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #135 on: March 09, 2013, 08:33:56 pm »
Another thought I have about rule changes has to deal with the weight rule.
How is this rule going to affect road racers? Or, will they even have worry about this rule?
Will there be a seperate rule on weight percentages for road racers?

I just don't think INEX has thought this all the way through.

Yes.... More of my thoughts.
Take them for what you will.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #136 on: March 10, 2013, 09:31:07 am »
Thank you to whomever removed that last post that I had read last night....It was very disrespectful.   So now that the date for the sealed engine deal has been moved back, let's all work together to make this series better for 2013.
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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #137 on: March 10, 2013, 01:11:31 pm »
if you weigh 200 pounds, expect to have to weigh 1350 total, to get to the 640 minimum right side.....what a joke.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #138 on: March 10, 2013, 02:17:38 pm »
I haven't tested anything on scales yet, but I believe the weight rule will help bigger guys. I still think the 100lb kids have a great advantage, but I don't believe their advantage will be as great. In my mind, if everyone has to get up to 1350 to make the 640 rs rule, it evens things out a ton. I honestly think that 200+lb guys won't have to add any lead to get to the 640, if they do it'll be to make the 1300 pounds. I will say however that this gives guys much more incentive to buy light weight wheels!

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #139 on: March 10, 2013, 08:17:56 pm »
LOL!!! I'm lucky to weigh 150 lbs soaking wet.  :D
The light weight wheels will help with unsprung weight, but not help with the overall weight.
My point is that everyone wants to have the lightest weight car they can get through tech.
IF a person is of larger size (NO... I am not calling anyone fat), then they could lighten up the car (to a certain extent).
As driver is located to the left side of the car; It would seem to me that weight would need to be added to the right side to make the required weight rule.
Not sure if I am missing something here.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #140 on: March 10, 2013, 09:24:04 pm »
No No No guys this weight rule hurts the 100lb driver. I have ran the numbers on the scales and it changes it all. The 100 lb kid will be lucky to be 50.5 left  ehile the 200 lb driver will be closer to 52 left if you play it right.


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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #141 on: March 10, 2013, 09:33:23 pm »
I think it will definitely help the more stoutly proportioned such as myself. No rule is "fair" to everybody, I'll take this one though. My car is 1086 without driver, sucked having to add lead to meet 1100, then putting my 240# ass in the seat ;D
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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #142 on: March 10, 2013, 09:33:58 pm »
I get the left side weight Dennis. What I am asking is; Would the heavier driver then have to add weight to the right side to make the right side weight rule?

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #143 on: March 10, 2013, 09:38:11 pm »
How does the weight of a driver effect the left side % when you still have to hit a MINIMUM of 640 pounds Right Side Weight. To Achieve 52% Left Side weight your car HAS to weigh 1340 pounds. Period. My Driver is 120 pounds and it makes NO Difference! If anything the way they wrote the rule is once again a Advantage to the smaller drivers because we can get more Rear % The scales dont know the size of the driver or the position of the driver. The fact remains you have to hit 640 pounds right side weight regardless of the size of the driver.  I will run our car a little over weight to achieve my left side % I want and maintain the right side rule. No big deal carrying a little more weight if the car handles better because of it.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #144 on: March 10, 2013, 09:40:17 pm »
Depends on set up, car, etc. I won't have to add weight on my car to get 640 right side
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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #145 on: March 10, 2013, 09:42:03 pm »
You might not have to but what does that put you for Left side % and Total weight?

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #146 on: March 10, 2013, 09:54:09 pm »
For my autocrossing, I am looking at a more neutrally balanced car. Therefore my interest in the 640 lb right side rule.
As I am still building my car, and not yet had it on scales, I do not know what the right side weight averages on an average car.
For me, a lighter driver will keep the car more balanced left to right.

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #147 on: March 10, 2013, 10:47:55 pm »
640 of 1300 is 49.3 period end of story. If you want more left side than 50.7 you will have to be over 1300... Simple math

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Re: Inex rule changes 2013
« Reply #148 on: March 10, 2013, 11:46:29 pm »
My 110 lb driver and I played on the scale for several hours today. We are happy with the set-up at 640 right, I did go back to my old set-up because the way I read the rule it is not in effect until INEX says. Some of you guys are correct and we are over 1300 lbs.

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« Reply #149 on: March 11, 2013, 08:20:52 am »
Grape is correct and on the right path, at 1300 lbs with driver. Alot of 180 plus drivers are not at 1300 lbs, for every pound over 1300 the left will go up and you can maintain 640 right.  All these cars that were right at 1315 lbs with driver were running right at 52% left. will not be able to get 52% left unless you add weight, this will even out the overall weight difference of a 170lb driver. WE ARE STILL UNDER THE OLD RULE UNTIL THE RULE BOOKS COME OUT AND THEN A DATE WILL BE SET.  Yes you can run all the rear you want, as long as you want the nose of the car going to the wall under acceleration.