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IraceLegends77
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #15 on:
September 03, 2011, 07:10:54 am »
I use it my truck, generator,motorcycle and my race car. I use it in about everything that has a gas engine. It really works well. And yes, I use in my new (new to me) diesel truck.
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Scott Wilkerson #77 Vision Graphix Racing
LM5
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #16 on:
September 03, 2011, 05:44:57 pm »
Turned out to be the ignition box. Swapped it over and it fired straight away.
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racerrad8
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #17 on:
September 03, 2011, 07:25:14 pm »
Red box or stock XJ/FJ box?
Randy - RPM
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LM5
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #18 on:
September 04, 2011, 07:22:35 am »
It was a stock black box.
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LM5
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #19 on:
September 05, 2011, 05:41:33 am »
Im looking around for a replacement box and Ive noticed differences in boxes. The box in my car is labelled "digital ignitor TID14-90" and others are labelled "ic ignitor TID14-50". Can someone please tell me the difference and if they can be used. Thanks
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Hoopy_boy
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #20 on:
September 05, 2011, 04:06:54 pm »
The only difference in black boxes is vacume port or not. Black boxes that look identical but have a different ending numbers are normally a vendor Id. Both boxes can be in a new parts bag from Yamaha and sport the same number on the bag. The part its self with the different ending number on it signifies who Yamaha contracted to manuifacture the box. One ending number could be Seiki and the other ending number represent Denso built. Like I say, most likely the number difference on the part itself is who manufactured the box for Yamaha.
~ Gimpster ~
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VMS Motorsports
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #21 on:
September 05, 2011, 04:29:42 pm »
Not to step on toes here Gimpster...
There are 3 black boxes. One without the vacuum advance, one with the vacuum advance, and one with the vacuum advance contained within the box (will have a hose barb on the box itself)
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JIM BUCHER
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LM5
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #22 on:
September 05, 2011, 04:51:22 pm »
And all of these will work? It's just that every time I see a legend car ignition it's the tid-90 and priced from $250. Where as the tid-50 are only $50
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VMS Motorsports
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #23 on:
September 05, 2011, 05:43:28 pm »
I believe they all will work, never used one with the vacuum in the box.
The non vacuum one has a lower rev limiter, 9800 I think
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JIM BUCHER
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LM5
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #24 on:
September 06, 2011, 06:51:52 am »
I grabbed a couple of the units as there weren't expensive. I got a tid14 30, 50 and 51. I did some more research and found this
www.erd.co.nz/images/Yamaha%20Binder.pdf
looks like they are wired up slightly different. Has any one got one of these and now the order for the wires?
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Hoopy_boy
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #25 on:
September 08, 2011, 11:40:07 am »
Did they show up with the connectors that plug into the box ?
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LM5
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #26 on:
September 08, 2011, 07:14:51 pm »
No they were just the box. It looks like these are from pre 89 FJ1200 and look like they wont work. I think I have sourced one, the only problem I am having is with the sensor. Currently as the car was there is no sensor connected to CDI, is that ok? what will happen without it?
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VMS Motorsports
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #27 on:
September 08, 2011, 11:58:21 pm »
You do not need the vacuum module
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JIM BUCHER
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Hoopy_boy
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Re: Engine won't start
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Reply #28 on:
September 09, 2011, 05:45:11 am »
Yeah, leave it open
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