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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2007, 07:05:19 pm »
The test went well. We only had a chance to get my older boy Brad in the car for two 10 lap sessions.  He has never driven before.  He was getting faster by the lap when the front sprocket stripped the teeth off. He did a great job and I think that I will be able to get him up to speed quickly. We will be doing winter testing on the XBOX playing nascar. This should help with driving lines and car feel (tight or loose).

Geoff


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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2007, 02:47:53 am »
 Seat time is what it is all about!
  I am concerned about stripping the teeth off the front spocket. Maybe Kyle, Jon or Tom can give you some insight on that. My immediate thought is that the chain and spockets don't match. #35, #41, #520, etc... chain doesn't match sprockets. Just a wild guess.  ??? 
 I'm also not up to speed on the clutch system that the Bando Cars use. Could it be that the clutch is engaging too harshly? Maybe changing the springs to soften it up would help.
 Wish I had better info for you. Hopefully someone with more knowledge can help you out.

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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2007, 09:51:50 pm »
I think that the stripped sprocket was caused by an improperly adjusted chain. It wasn't the one that I require for our track anyways. Just gives me a reason to buy a new clutch assembly and have some spare parts ;D.

Geoff

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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2007, 02:42:41 pm »
Hey Geoff,
 Any updates or insights on the car? New testing sessions?

Steve
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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #19 on: October 31, 2007, 08:46:45 pm »
I have removed the seat to better position it for my boy. No more testing until spring, getting way to cold up here. Been trying to get an engine together for my car so I can concentrate more on the Bando.

Geoff


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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2008, 09:16:09 pm »
 :)

Bandolero Racers:  Looking at getting my 10 yr. old and 8 yr. old into Bando racing. They are huge fans and we go to the Summer Shootout at Lowes every Tuesday during the summer.

We are completely new to this racing thing so I'm looking for some information about what to look for in Bando cars, how many parts needed to start, trailer options, helmet options, racing suit options, etc.

My 10 yr. old did the test drive a few weeks ago and he got hooked. So now we are in phase 2.  Driving school. Then we'll see where we go from there.

I'm a newbie to this racing thing though I'm a huge racing fan and looking forward to a challenge.

Please fill me in on what to look for in a used car, trailer, racing setups (secret from what I've seen so far) and what we may be getting ourselves into as a family for this upcoming summer season.

Thanks. Looking forward to seeing what ya'll say.

John Kirwan



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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2008, 02:32:59 am »
Hi and Welcome John!!!

 Try this thread; should give you some insite:

http://www.legendsracer.com/index.php/topic,72.0.html

 Hope that helps some.
Not just set up info; but darn near any info on Bandos seems to be the worlds best kept secret.
Talk with the driving instructor; and any crew or driver at the track.
Best advice I have for now.

 Best Of Luck!

 Steve
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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2008, 05:17:56 pm »
All that I have been able to find out so far. Cross weight in the low 40% area (from my tech guy at our track), do not use the brakes in the corner (Mike Smith, AKA Ole'Dawg), and keep lots of spindles and bumpers on hand (local racers). Anything else I can find out I will keep you posted.

Welcome to the racing community!!!

Geoff


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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2008, 05:15:26 am »
Hello  John,
  I'm new to this as well, I am hoping to have my Son (9) try his 1st practice this Friday at Lowes and then maybe the race on SAT/SUN. I have bought 2 cars, 1 needs some work the other appears to be good to go, so we are going to try it out.  Most people on the forums are very helpful and pretty much the same at the tracks I've learned. You'll probably be best off to hire an individual to set up your car and try to learn from there...at least thats my plan. So we'll see!
Good Luck!
Ray

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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2008, 08:33:35 pm »
Crew Chief's Job

Step one...figure out how to measure everything consistently.  Caster, Camber, Toe, Wheel Stagger (circumference difference from L to R), ride height at each corner, LS %, Rear%, and Cross%, tire pressure, tire durometer

Step two...figure out how to adjust all of the above

Step three...get the car set up by a pro, and record every aspect of that BASELINE setup

Step four...learn when and why to make any of the adjustments in step one from your baseline

Step five...learn how to get all this right before the feature each night!

Driver's Job

Practice...seat time builds confidence in the car and will teach you to recognize what the car is doing.

Communication...It is your job to accurately account for every little thing the car is doing and where it is doing it.  You must be able to tell how the car changes throughout a practice run.  The more you explain to your crewchief, the faster he can make you go.

Concentration...you are there to worry about yourself, and your car's speed on the track.  Those who can maintain that focus best usually end up doing better sooner.  DO NOT concern yourself with other's accomplishments at the track.  People with years of experience should be better than you and comparing yourself to them only serves to intimidate you, and trust me when I say that they do intentionally try to intimidate you.  Keep them out of your head!  There's as much to racing off the track as there is on the track.

A quote from Mario Andretti...if it feels like you have everything under control, you aren't going fast enough.


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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2008, 12:23:41 am »
People with years of experience should be better than you and comparing yourself to them only serves to intimidate you, and trust me when I say that they do intentionally try to intimidate you.  Keep them out of your head!  There's as much to racing off the track as there is on the track.

A quote from Mario Andretti...if it feels like you have everything under control, you aren't going fast enough.


True,  but unfortunate.  It's the fear of the other racer getting in your head that prevents racers from getting to know their fellow racer better.
The one thing I respected most about the legends class in our area is their willingness to help each other off the track and on.  They want to beat you on skill, not intimidation.  Most of them anyways. :-\

Mike
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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2008, 03:27:31 am »
Tom,
 Good Advice!

Mike,
 When I was in Nebraska, and started building my car; There was a lot of friendly folks. As there is not a lot of Legends Cars (or Dwarfs) in my area, The Good People on this forum have been very helpful!!! That's what makes it fun! I could have built a pedal car, and would bet people here would help out.


Steve
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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2008, 03:59:56 am »
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Re: Bandolero
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2008, 11:21:11 am »
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« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2008, 11:22:03 am »
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